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Sunlight not welcomed - trans advocates afraid

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Charliethefeminist · 29/08/2018 13:33

We have to acknowledge that we have largely achieved our successes by flying under the radar”, (then) Transgender Law Center Director Masen Davis stated eighteen months ago, “It is a secret at Transgender Law Center and I’ll ‘come out’ today. We do a lot, really quietly. We have made some of our biggest gains: that nobody has noticed

That's a quote from 2013.

Well now that women are noticing and collating, they are so afraid of the exposure that they cannot bear to see their work listed and described. In many ways, this is a good sign: of how their confidence and status is so deeply fragile, and they know it.

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picklemepopcorn · 31/08/2018 06:42

Seafret, so how come newspaper articles can be retrospectively edited to remove accurate information?

seafret · 31/08/2018 04:21

*SOME trans people, sorry tired.

seafret · 31/08/2018 04:20

I wa reading a legal judgement the other day that accepts and upholds that history canot and should not be re-written so I couldn't care less about deadnaming if it is doen in the name of poltical and democratic transparency.

Trans people need to understand that they have the same reaonable expectation of privacy, and liitations ot that, that we all have, not the absolute right to secrecy that they think they do.

Ereshkigal · 30/08/2018 16:42

As ever.

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Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 16:41

Oh right, projection

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ErrolTheDragon · 30/08/2018 16:40

Hitlist? Why are they saying it's a hitlist

Judging by the standards of some of the company they keep, perhaps?

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Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 16:29

Hitlist? Why are they saying it's a hitlist

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BraveAndStunning · 30/08/2018 16:14

Funnily enough, look who retweeted a UKTeli tweet, taking the opportunity (and why not?) to abuse Mumsnet. Yes, it's our old fav Dr Christian.

Any comment on Jess Bradley @UKTeli?

Sunlight not welcomed - trans advocates afraid

Maryzsnewaccount · 30/08/2018 16:04

We are back to "deadnaming" aren't we? In the same way as linking Lily to their old SM presence as Liam was considered to be bullying.

We are all meant to pretend that these people had no lives before they "became women"; great way to avoid any reference to appalling pre-transition behaviour.

Though most of them seem to immediately start building up a new lot of appalling behaviour post-transition

YetAnotherSpartacus · 30/08/2018 14:13

Yeah. I've just seen some of the porn...

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Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 11:28

I would like that thread. These links clearly show the connection between transactivism and misogyny.

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Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 11:28

You mean start a thread on 'extreme porn'?

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ToeToToe · 30/08/2018 11:18

There's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that they absolutely do not want a light shone on.

That's why they all started shouting so loud over that thread.

Perhaps we could categorise it:

Eg - the extreme porn stuff.

-TELI & Jess Bradley

-David Challenor/Aimee CHallenor and their influence on the Green Party.

etc

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Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 11:11

Roz not royal

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Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 11:10

I learned on here about John ozimek. I just learned on that thread about the Royal z Kaverney porn campaign. Its such valuable information. Amelia womack, Gina the copper, I had no idea. I screenshot lots of it.

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Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 11:08

I sort of tried but it was taken down. It was the same but called 'housecleaning'. It was a bit silly really, MN aren't dumb.

One problem is that though for example the info about Jane 'violent porn defender' fae is in the public domain, posting their former name and pic just gives the impression of being iffy. Even though that's what we actually need.

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loveyouradvice · 30/08/2018 11:00

Is there any way we can have another go at reposting that thread - in a way that Mumsnet won't take down???

ChattyLion · 30/08/2018 08:54

Haxxor great post.
Retro great post.
I just lost a long post but essentially wanted to echo the gratitude and urgency Retro expressed. Public services, health, education and academia are too far down the rabbit hole- this is down to individuals now to create space for debate. The good news is when we can do that, the vast majority of people agree with the position that would protect women and children. We need to make sure the debate is heard and to raise awareness of the GRA consultation before it’s too late and this clash of rights is legally resolved against the interest of women and children.

RetroTardigrade · 30/08/2018 00:17

Thank fuck for all you sparkling brilliant women. Delurking once more to say thank you all for the work you're doing exposing this outrageous conspiracy against women and children.

I come up for air every few months from the swamp of baby-and toddler-care to see you're all still at it, making these connections and setting out the reasoned arguments that are going to help keep my children safe as they grow up.

all around, and

LadyLauraOver · 29/08/2018 23:55

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ToeToToe · 29/08/2018 23:49

That thread is unbelievable levels of crazy. How the hell did we get here?

BraveAndStunning · 29/08/2018 23:46

And.... there we have it. WTF have women been banging on about for years, all in one thread

twitter.com/Glinner/status/1034909470672007168

NotBadConsidering · 29/08/2018 23:42

From that twitter thread:

Excuse me, but can I get your preferred pronoun for the 911 call?

haXXor · 29/08/2018 23:39

Another one of the Guardian writing cohort is sharing helpful information on suing for defamation - how does collating and disseminating publicly available information = defamation?

"The main defences to a defamation claim are:

truth/justification - if the statement is true, it will not be considered defamatory, no matter how damaging it is "

Everything I said on that thread was sourced and true, apart from asking whether the Scouts were asleep re David Challenor, which is "honest opinion". And yes, I kept a copy.

ToeToToe · 29/08/2018 23:38

Explains the Dr Who stuff

MN can delete it if they like.

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