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Pro-Trans article "Women *Can* Have Penises" , Katherine Jenkins Nottingham University

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theOtherPamAyres · 28/08/2018 15:36

theconversation.com/can-a-woman-have-a-penis-how-to-understand-disagreements-about-gender-recognition-101991?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1535457048

The article finishes with the conclusion:

what does it mean for the Liverpool ReSisters’s claim that “women don’t have penises”? Well, since gender identity is not determined by what kind of genitals someone has, a person with a female gender identity might well have a penis. In other words, yes, some women do have penises.

Katherine Jenkins, assistant Professor of Philosophy, Nottingham University

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 28/08/2018 16:29

"Trans people who are forced to move through society in a way that is fundamentally at odds with their gender identity report that this is a deeply distressing and harmful experience"

SO ARE WOMEN AND GIRLS. Forced to navigate society in a way that is deeply harmful to them as ACTUAL REAL PEOPLE NOT SEX OBJECTS FOR CONSUMPTION.

Fuck off prof.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 28/08/2018 16:27

"For example, for certain medical purposes – tests for different kinds of cancer, say – it would be most useful to divide people up based on their internal reproductive organs. "

Yes because everybody knows exactly what internal reproductive organs they have, with no reference to any outwardly visible characteristics.

So they say men can be women because some people are intersex and who is anyone to say by looking at the outside whether a person is male or female.

At the same time we all have to magically know what internal organs we have, without ever having seen them or had scans for them, and without linking them to our externally sexed bodies in any way.

It's all claptrap.

This person obviosuly supports campaigns for "people with cervixes" (and so what if a large proportion of people with cervixes don't know that they've got one and this means them).

littlbrowndog · 28/08/2018 16:25

She got a good take down by the one comment

Was roasted and toasted on the pure drivel she wrote by the comment

One wonders how a educated person can write such mince

TittyGolightly · 28/08/2018 16:23

She should stick to singing.

NotTerfNorCis · 28/08/2018 16:22

Well she believes whether you're a man or woman is purely determined by how you identify. It's an opinion that wouldn't stand up to much scrutiny. I assume she didn't analyse it in depth.

Cascade220 · 28/08/2018 16:19

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ErrolTheDragon · 28/08/2018 16:19

Woman = adult human female. Defined by sex and reproductive role, not 'gender identity'.

Women don't have penises.

SilkeOvesen · 28/08/2018 16:14

I couldn’t understand what she was getting at at the beginning, except to say that it makes sense to discriminate on the basis of bodies if you think the person might get pregnant and take maternity leave? Confused

Ereshkigal · 28/08/2018 16:05

What's next, the Facebook clownfish post?

Ereshkigal · 28/08/2018 16:03

She even links to that dumb Nature piece so beloved of anti woman activists who don't really understand biology.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 28/08/2018 16:03

What a complete pillock, to go public with that under her professional name.
Silly cow.

RedToothBrush · 28/08/2018 16:00

I read as far as, assistant Professor of Philosophy, Nottingham University

You can pretty much argue any old bollocks in philosophy. Doesn't mean shit though.

NameChangedAgain18 · 28/08/2018 15:59

This is just making a mockery of academics

I agree. It’s lazy, and it’s insulting to her colleagues. Publishing the kind of polemical drivel that Owen Jones writes for the Guardian brings the profession into disrepute.

Ereshkigal · 28/08/2018 15:58

What an idiot.

Cascade220 · 28/08/2018 15:53

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LangCleg · 28/08/2018 15:53

since gender identity is not determined by what kind of genitals someone has

No, it isn't. It's determined by what religion somebody follows, dear. Go and start a trans ideology seminary and stop theocratising universities.

Biologifemini · 28/08/2018 15:50

Oh dear Katherine
You haven’t ventured into the biology dept at Nottingham university
This is just making a mockery of academics
Perhaps someone will write a PhD on it in the near future under the title of ‘how fake news gained acceptance’

NameChangedAgain18 · 28/08/2018 15:47

How embarrassing for an academic to publish such nonsense. I’m ashamed of what’s happening in my profession at the moment.

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