GiGi Gorgeous - Transgender Pregnancy

Is anyone surprised any more when transgenders assert that they feel that they are more a woman than a genetic woman is because of the performance they put on?

I’ve seen this so many times.

Transwomen saying they are more female than women because they’ve had to fight for their identity whereas we’ve had it had it handed to us on a plate, ffs.

And Magdalen, you’re a fucking legend.

Anyone hear the sound of lawsuits in the making?

I rewatched the first part of the LAWS Plymouth talk tonight and Stephanie from Transgender Trend answered a question about class action suits against Lupron (the drug used as a puberty blocker for "trans children" now, also first used in cases of precocious puberty which is where the lawsuits are coming from). She said that we probably won't start seeing trans-related legal action for a decade, or even two, when people start realising they've been misinformed about side effects and consequences like infertility. Worse yet, where surgeons have been successfully sued for surgery which is later regretted, the settlements are subject to gagging orders. Makes an absolute mockery of informed consent.

Yes, Movablefeast I think you are right there are a lot of implications. We had a lot of expensive fertility treatment and it's hard to imagine earlier in life how important being able to have a family can be.

The comments are saying that she implied or even LIED and her followers were under the impression that she had had “bottom surgery” and had no penis. I think this this does seem to be the case as she sheepishly “reveals”that yes she realized she was quite attached to her penis and gradually years had passed and she was happy to hang onto it.

What is interesting is she seems to be suggesting that they were not preventing pregnancy (although she seems very ambivalent about it) and found Nats was not falling pregnant. The doctor says that hormones can affect sperm and of course Gigi then says she has been taking hormones for years. So the reality is hitting of how these medical interventions can really have life altering repercussions. She seems to be taken aback.

So many people who are identifying as Transgender are still very young (under 30). They are usually not at a time in their life yet to be thinking about children. I think also with all the turmoil in their lives with transition that life decisions are put back further if anything. So I don’t think the reality of their biology is going to hit in large numbers for another decade. It is sad.

Might thoughts.

1. Gigi is a massive bell end
2. Gigi has no clue how birth and maternity services dehumanise women.

Most of the time it seems when transgenders say they have had surgery they mean breast implants and facial surgery or laser hair removal, while they seem to imply they have had an orchiectomy and penis inversion.

Yes, AAK

Also if you click on the Gender Trender link I posted just up a bit, GiGi states that they are 'Not transgender, not a tr**ny' just a gay boy who likes wearing make up and pink clothes (oh and is 'hotter than your girlfriend')

Didn't Gregory identify as gay before the switch to Gigi happened?

I saw this earlier and was going to post it here. The video is fairly mundane really, a lot of blabbering on about nothing but the comments on the video are very interesting, very few are in favour of what Gigi is saying, a lot saying she isn't a real woman and can't ever understand what being a woman is like. Which is really interesting considering it's YouTube which is generally a younger audience and she can moderate the comments.

Interestingly as well Gigi has definitely suggested they have had surgery and in this video she then admits she hasn't. I'm not sure what that means but it's a bit weird to insinuate you don't have a penis when you do. She's sort of saying "hey so I know I said I was a lesbian well actually I have a dick and have plain old PIV sex, a bit like a straight man, sorry" she sort of admits that she's not a woman at all because she's very sheepish about it.

I assumed the Dr thought it was 2 women because when they filled out the forms they will have inevitably had to fill out they will have written sex=woman for Gigi. It's very unlikely that they wouldn't have had to fill in anything before the appointment.

Also if Gigi was infact a biological woman, as a lesbian she would be having the same problem of not being able to have a baby with her partner who was genetically both of theirs. When in fact as Gigi has a fully functioning penis she doesn't have so much of this problem, because providing she is still fertile they can have biological children.

I don't mind her saying genetic woman, it is better than cis and at least it acknowledges that she is not a biological woman.

#thathappened

I mean, the doctor could have been visually impaired, and hearing impaired, but...

Is anyone surprised any more when transgenders assert that they feel that they are more a woman than a genetic woman is because of the performance they put on?
I have read and heard so many say this by now immediately followed by a denial that it is a comparison that all it elicits is an eyeroll.

I've got a headache after watching that video.

Was it just me or did she claim that wanking into a cup so her sperm could be frozen was oh so terrible and masculine and triggering etc etc, whereas trying TTC (which presumably involves her penis ejaculating sperm) with her female partner she didn't seem to have the same problem with?

I'm confused as to what the hell she was going on about to be honest.

But it's clear her problems are so so much worse than your bog standard woman with real life fertility issues.

'Shout out to all my fellow lesbians, gurl! He-ey!!'

Said no lesbian EVER

So funny. I honestly think it is phenomenal to watch a person contort themselves into so many different queer identities to try and avoid being a boring old male who is attracted to a biologically born female. Trying to claim they can't have children because they are transgender when in fact there is no biological barrier whatsoever to a person with male genitalia and a person with female genitalia becoming parents (barring any infertility issues).

How desperate is this person for queer street cred? I guess their entire media presence and youtube following is built on their trans woman identity so being heterosexual does throw something of a spanner in the works...

Damn you all. This is really serious and I fell down a total Nats And GiGi rabbit hole. The Paris proposal is really quite mesmerisingly horrific and I was just about to go and google to see if these are the same loons whose totally normal greek god wedding or whatever the fuck it was was all over the internet a while ago. And then I realised that Nats is a granddaughter of Jean Paul Getty, and so many things made more sense.

Coming out three times takes some doing.

Here's a video by the lovely Magdelen about when Gigi came out as a 'lesbian'

TinyrIck

Oh dear. I see.

www.google.com.au/amp/s/gendertrender.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/washroom-dilemma/amp/

Gigi has always been a narcissistic entitled little twerp with no regards for women.

So, basically...

'I started presenting as female and realised I liked being a bloke in a frock and makeup who can have sex with women.'

Fine. Cool. You crack on, pal.

'Having sex change surgery is like, the craziest thing you can do to your body.'

Crazier than growing a human in it then squeezing it out through your 'front hole'?
Okay then.

And you want a child? Better get used to having no control over anything and no time to put on your six sets on false eyelashes and nine layers of contouring, then.

Or maybe you'll do what a lot of blokes do and leave the shitwork to its 'other mum'.

Whatever happened at the clinic Gigi was going to be humiliated enough to have to make a YouTube post about it.

Not been seen as male - humiliated by having to explain.

Been seen as male - humiliated by not passing

I would have thought the clinic would want detail of the client (sex and age) when they make an appointment. It's odd that they don't.

The internet allows us to see top much, I think.

When I wanted a baby, o would not have accepted my partner not going back for the appointment (that would hurt.

I am sure it is hard but Gigi is being selfish, especially considering the female's role in this is mich harder.

Zutt

Possibly true, but from what I can see on this video:

Gigi is from somewhere like LA. If you've ever watched any crap TV, like I have, there's little to choose between a rich middle-aged women who's has a fuck-tonne of cosmetic surgery, and GIGI

There is no way a fertility expert thinks the person in the video is female. I don't think they made the comment about them being 'so young' either.

What strikes me is that there is no difference between Gigi's vanity and self-obsession than the many actual women who are seeking surgery to attain some 'ideal'(sexy doll) of female beauty. The kinds of 'ideal' that sane women are rejecting. It's incredibly retrograde. It's symptomatic of narcissism

I wanted to watch this but it was so self-indulgent and her delivery so boring and peppered with “I really didn’t want to make this video” tearful moments, I had to give up at 3 minutes.