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Aimee Challenor's resignation

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TriptychTwins · 26/08/2018 21:28

Apparently Aimee's resigned. Unfortunately the link isn't working so I can't post it here, but I have it on good authority that it's genuine.

Let's hope so.

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Catupatree · 28/08/2018 09:48

A guided rotor compressor? Oh. You mean the gender.....etc....

Floisme · 28/08/2018 09:01

I very much doubt that Goldacre has abandoned science. I read that ‘like’ as one human being sympathising with another.

I know this thread is about Aimee’s statement but I would much rather focus on David Challenor and The Green Party. David is the child rapist and torturer and I would like to know how much influence and reach he has had within the Green Party. Their statement that he was not a paid employee or elected is disingenuous in the extreme. I also simply cannot believe that no-one at grassroots level knew about this case. So who decided to keep quiet and why?

Ekphrasis · 28/08/2018 08:49

refuses to believe Ben in anyway agrees with any of this

Ekphrasis · 28/08/2018 08:48

Ben Goldacre may just be liking the sentiment rather than knowing all the ins and outs of all this.

It's rather like an iceberg; some people see the visible tip, every one here sees what's going on beneath. And all the spiky peaks.

KataraJean · 28/08/2018 08:40

12thGuelph that is an interesting question. My understanding is that access to HRT is already reduced for menopausal women due to the increased risks of strokes and cardiovascular disease. Hormonal contraceptives are also not without risk, hence lowering doses and changing the way they are made over time (if you compare what was on offer in the 1970s with now). The general trend in women’s medicine has been to reduce the use and dose of hormones, not increase it.

That is the position I support, I don’t think it is good for women to be prescribed hormonal preparations as a first or routine resort to the biological issues which come with being female. That does not mean there is no role for them. Hence, I would question the routine prescription of hormones to people who have gender identity issues.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 28/08/2018 06:12

Aimee

LadybirdsAreBirds · 28/08/2018 06:11

Good question.
Does Aimed have a GRC?

Catupatree · 28/08/2018 06:01

Has 'Aimee' transitioned?

heresyandwitchcraft · 27/08/2018 23:44

Ben Goldacre is backing the trans activist narrative?
(buries face in hands and despairs)

TooManyBooksTooLittleTime · 27/08/2018 23:41

Just read the 'where doesTRA money come from' thread. medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

Someone should tweet Ben Goldacre that link, looks like Bad Science at it's finest.

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 27/08/2018 23:35

Ben Goldacre. That is depressing.

12thGuelph · 27/08/2018 22:20

The trans activism agenda does not make sense as an environmental policy, regardless of anything else. We know hormones in the water system are affecting wildlife; we know plastic in the oceans are killing fish; we know consumerism is bad for the environment- and the trans agenda seems about consumerism of things which we want to be cutting down on, not increasing use of.

You'll be advocating for stopping women’s access to HRT then?

EnormousDormouse · 27/08/2018 21:32

This is depressing - Ben Goldacre 'liking' Aimee's post.

Aimee Challenor's resignation
nocoolnamesleft · 27/08/2018 20:42

The father is a nasty piece of shit. I dread to think what impact it would have on a child to have such a father. I really, really hope Aimee and their siblings have not also faced abuse. But the possibility does make it slightly hard for me to condemn Aimee's actions as much as I otherwise would. At the least, the father was probably an expert in grooming.

BoreOfWhabylon · 27/08/2018 10:30

My position on feminism is fast evolving. I’ve always believed in equality, like many people wasn’t crazy about the baggage that went with the word feminism, but now I fit the definition of a radical feminist.

This was me too, although I hit #peaktrans a while back, thanks entirely to threads here.

Juells · 27/08/2018 10:29

The hatred of women, by men who insist that they are women, is frightening. They'd like to be rid of us and just keep the dresses and heels.

AnyFucker · 27/08/2018 10:13

They have won if we do that

No they haven't. So MNHQ delete you ? Call the fucking cops. Jesus.

String was talking about Bruce Jenner.

StringandGlitter · 27/08/2018 10:07

Ancient lights, I was posting in a thread about Caitlin Jenner.

AncientLights · 27/08/2018 10:01

StringandGlitter I still don't know who you're talking about! A whole paragraph of self-censoring, still not communicating the essential point.

They have won if we do that.

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 09:59

"I request privacy for me and my disabled mum"

Odd that. Coming from a family who were desperate for public attention.

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 09:58

Ooops. Should have said "When they allowed, David Challoner, a convicted animal abuser, to be an election agent".

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 09:57

Where are the Green Party's standards

Where were they when they allowed David Challoner, a convicted animal abuser, from being an election agent? Or from campaigning on their behalf and using his house as their HQ in Coventry?

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 09:55

Aimee will not be undertaking any official Green Party roles while the party urgently looks into the circumstances which allowed this situation to arise

Translation: Aimee will still be working behind the lines. Once we think evil terfs everyone has forgotten about it, Aimee will be back in harness.

In other words: nothing to see here; move along.

StringandGlitter · 27/08/2018 09:49

Also see lack of edit function *their initials Blush

StringandGlitter · 27/08/2018 09:48

It trips you up doesn’t it TriptychTwins

On a thread a couple of weeks ago I was talking about a very famous trans person who was on telly. I thought I don’t want to use “she” as this person famously uses their male identity to access their exclusive male-only golf club, so IMO they are only going for the bra and highheels version of being a women and not the shitty discrimination part. Women don’t get to identify out of the shitty bit. I can’t use “he” because of MN guidelines. I know, I’ll use their initials. What’s there initials? My brain defaulted to their male initials and MN doesn’t have an edit feature. Hmm. Genuine mistake and not deliberate.

All that mental gymnastics and I still got it wrong. It makes speaking your truth so much harder. It made me think of that women who got told off in court by the judge for using wrong pronouns about Tara Wolf as she was giving testimony. She was unable to give her witness statement without internally policing her language.