Aimee Challenor's resignation

It was 15 in the last comment from AC that I read.

I think the plural in victims is supposed to be Aimee as well. I do think Aimee seems themselves as a victim

AC confirms it was taken 4 years ago

R0wantrees the funny thing is that if you look at TC's Facebook, the profile photo is of her children with AC looking older than 10 and decidedly male. AC even confirms the picture is pre transition in the comments. So not sure how they can truthfully claim that they did transition at 10

"Ms Challenor said she was in shock"

The newspaper headline thus: Man with Man's Voice sounds like a Man Shock"

Too blood right Sadiq Khan should wade in to apologise. Oh the Humanity!

Re Aimee Challenor's influence:
December 2016 Evening Standard article:
(extract)
"London Mayor Sadiq Khan is looking to scrap “ladies and gentlemen” from bus and Tube announcements after a transgender woman claims she was ridiculed by transport staff.

Aimee Challenor, 19, was on the phone to Transport for London’s Oyster helpline when she was told she “didn’t sound like a Miss”.

The gaffe sparked an outcry from the Green Party – who Ms Challenor works for as a spokesperson – who called for the Mayor of London to apologise.

Ms Challenor said she was "in shock" and didn't know how to respond following the comment.

Sadiq Khan apologised for the “inappropriate” remark and said TfL would investigate as well as promising to take action to boost transgender awareness."

www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/mayor-sadiq-khan-looks-to-scrap-ladies-and-gentlemen-from-transport-announcements-a3416426.html

July 2017 Evening Standard article:

'Transport for London scraps 'ladies and gentlemen' from Tube tannoy announcements in gender-neutral move
'The term 'ladies and gentlemen' is polite but really belongs to yesterday', say campaigners'

(extract)
"Transport workers across London have been told to stop using the words “ladies and gentlemen” in tannoy announcements to customers in a city-wide bid to become more gender-neutral.

Bosses at Transport for London told staff to use terms such as “good morning everyone” instead of the more traditional gendered greeting.

All new pre-recorded announcements are also set to be changed to new phrases.

If follows months of campaigning by LGBTQ+ activists who appealed to Mayor of London Sadiq Khan to change the “outdated” language which is commonly used by train and bus drivers.

TfL boss of customer strategy, Mark Evers, said they want "everyone to feel welcome on our transport network".

"We have reviewed the language that we use in announcements and elsewhere and will make sure that it is fully inclusive, reflecting the great diversity of London," he added." (continues)

www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/transport-for-london-scraps-ladies-and-gentlemen-from-tannoy-announcements-in-genderneutral-move-a3586336.html

I dunno. Political parties love young 'rising stars'. We have several in the party I'm in. Mostly gay young men who are feted despite having very little life experience.

Aimee Challoner's statement:

"I made a decision to transition at a young age, while I was in care. This is a deeply personal journey for me and one which I I have made independently from my relationship with my dad. I was not influenced to do so, told to do so, asked to do so. I am a trans woman and this is my own journey."

June 2018 Guardian article:
"And Challenor has experienced prejudice herself. It started on the night she came out as trans at her school prom, aged 16. She wasn’t allowed to wear a dress, her headteacher told her, because it was “unnecessarily attention-seeking” and would make the school “look stupid”. (The school back-pedalled after a complaint from Challenor’s parents.)"

Sources:
www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/06/aimee-challenor-theresa-may-lgbt-inequality-transgender-green-party

aimeechallenor.uk/statements.html

Recent case where a 17 year old has been convicted of sexual assault of two young girls in women's toilets. Some suggestion that the perpetrator though male may not identify as a man. Article describes how they have been in social care from early age and had been accompanied to supermarket by a carer:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3329936-teen-films-girl-in-toilet

Why are they asking people to produce resources for foster carers whose only qualification is being trans? They should be using psychotherapists/the Tavistock etc. It's absolutely shocking. Those are some of the most vulnerable people in our society

This is really important point.

Why are they asking people to produce resources for foster carers whose only qualification is being trans? They should be using psychotherapists/the Tavistock etc. It's absolutely shocking. Those are some of the most vulnerable people in our society

Is that a new header Aimee how on her account? "Stop Violence against Women in Politics"? Excellent trolling if so.

Just seen her 'slowly return to twitter' tweet...err how long was she gone? Bet her fingers were itching.

I wish she would just resign, felt hopeful reading this thread but the 'sons of the father' tweets of support show how many think she is blameless. As a PP said on this thread or a related thread she is incompetent at best. She really has no place being where she is and GP should drop her like a hot potato

Recent thread
OP I wrote:
Jessica Eaton's comment:

'every week social workers approach me about traumatised kids after abuse and trauma suddenly identifying as trans and SW being told to just affirm it rather than working through the trauma'

Jessica's comments referenced by ThatDoctorEM along with her own work on thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324391-Paedophile-expert-warns-of-transitioning-as-a-ploy

I have started a new thread in order to specifically focus on the possible serious consequences for vulnerable looked after children & statuatory corporate parenting responsibilities

See resources including video and leaflet for young people in care and toolkit 'Trans Youth in Care - a Toolkit for Caring Professionals'
www.lgbtyouthincare.com/trans-youth-in-care-resources/

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These resources seem to have mostly been generated in Manchester supported by Tara Hewitt (TELI UCSM), Three cIrcles Fostering (Wilmslow), The Proud Trust (patrons incl prominant TRAs Stephen Whittle & Christine Burns)
www.theproudtrust.org/about-us/our-patrons/

With additional acknowledged support from Mermaids & GIRES.

The Toolkit (publ 2017) seems heavily based on Allsorts Toolkit but has additional content due to the focus being children in care.
aspects of Allsorts Toolkit have been questioned and there are then I believe additional questions to ask of some of the content of this publication

Chronology (from resource)
"In 2014 Jacob Sibley (director, Three Circles Fostering) and Andrew (the LGBT foundation) completed a consultation on the experiences of LGBT people in care. Their findings helped produce a resource
entitled 'Supporting Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Trans Young People - Information for Foster Carers’. During May 2016 Three Circles Fostering met with some individuals who highlighted the need for more training and awareness specifically for care professionals in how to support and care for trans young people in care.
From this, Charlotte Andrew (NT&AS), Sage Aalto (Three Circles Fostering), Tara Hewitt (NHS Equalities lead) and Jacob Sibley
(Three Circles Fostering) completed a consultation with The Proud Trust Afternoon Tea group in September 2016 and with care leavers and individuals at the Sparkle event in Manchester July 2016.
A resource titled ‘trans youth in Foster Care- know your rights’ was produced which is hoped to be shared with all young people in care nationwide, this can be viewed at www.lgbtyouthincare.com.
F i n a l l y, a t o o l k i t t o i n f o r m c a r e professionals working with Trans young people, to ensure positive outcomes has been produced."

leaflet for looked after children

Toolkit for professionals

video 'Trans Youth in Care: Know Your Rights'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324578-Vunerabilities-of-Looked-After-Children-Social-Work-CP-restricted-by-affirmation-requirement-Trans-Youth-in-Care-Toolkit

And AC is back on twitter. Apparently they have GP's full support and are helping them with investigating what went wrong so same errors aren't made again. What a total farce.

Aimee must surely be a victim too? Cynically used by the Greens for the publicity value, why else would they have allowed the campaign to continue once the father was accused/charged?

Aimee hasn't resigned. She has "stepped back" from the Deputy Leadership race.

She is still on the Green Party Executive and she is coordinating the Green Party's response to the Gender Recognition Act from her computer at home.

There's another topic on the Green Party's GRA arrangments, but in summary - AC has already filled in the answers so you, Young Green party member and Green LBGTQQWERTY, don't have to. Put your name to it (or give AC your name and remain anonymous) and she'll do the rest. Not at all suspect and sinister. No, no, no.

Stepping back from an election - but still in a position to steer the Green party towards a rock. Wake up, Green party, and hear the klaxons going off around you.

That youth group looks very dodgy - mixing vulnerable 13years olds with 21 years olds is just asking for issues. And who are the mentors?

I hope Thingybob doesn't mind me posting this on here (it's on the Safeguarding thread as well). Youth group Aimee Challoner is associated with:

"Apologies if this has been posted before but I couldn't find anything on here about this group.

www.prismlgbtq.org/
aimeechallenor.uk/mywork.html
icov.co.uk/inside-prism-coventrys-only-lgbtq-youth-group/

Lots of things don't sit well with me; a club that caters for very vulnerable YP from 13 years old, secret meeting places, no mention of police checks, no mention of the fitness of those doing one to one mentoring, a club that 'welcomes parents', activity days, overnight trips"

I thought that this from Sandy Draws Badly on Twitter summed it all up

Sympathy puff piece coming to a dumbsss media outlet near you soon.

I don't think we can ignore Aimee. Aimee has the USP. Aimee gets puff pieces in the mainstream media and the ear of government.

Aside from this really disturbing situation- It does look like the Green Party are going as the main priority for their candidates to have potential for public impact - people who already have public influence and connections. Other aspects or qualifications fall by the wayside it would seem.

What does a 20 year old have to bring to a deputy political party leadership?! Aside from their own necessarily very limited life experience?
What does a party gain from a completely inexperienced deputy leader?
Do we think that say, a 20 year old girl would have the same opportunity to apply for this post?

Isn't BA rather dismissive of women generally

"How can someone with such a deeply troubled background have been allowed to run for deputy leader of a major political party, at 20"

It is worth considering the influence and possible power that Aimee Challoner has through their position with Stonewall and within media circuits in particular BBC and The Independant.