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should young girls go to prison for "false rape claims"

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traceyracer · 26/08/2018 11:51

nypost.com/2018/06/05/former-college-student-who-claimed-rape-admits-it-was-all-lies/

Won't sending her to prison make it harder for the real victims to come forward?

And what if she's mentally ill and needs help rather than criminal-minded?

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Melanippe · 26/08/2018 14:34

Accused rapists have such enormous stigma over them that they become Presidents, run companies and get paid millions to act in films.

rwalker · 26/08/2018 14:34

YES it destroys lives of the accused and it undermine genuine cases
our friends daughter accused a lad of rape turns out it was because she didn't want to confess to her parents that she had underage sex (they were both 15 she was a few months older than him). He was arrested full intimate medical exam clothes take room searched phones laptop seized .Only when she realised the full extent of what was going to happen she confessed that she made it up case closed. .The poor 15 year old boy traumatised . She got a talking to by police but nothing major not to mention time and police resource wasted that could be spent on genuine cases .Apparently the boy is in a bad way and struggling to cope and she's got of scot free.

notacooldad · 26/08/2018 14:20

If there is evidence that a woman has maliciously claimed she has been raped and it was proven to be false then she should go to prison.
Rapist, quite rightly have a huge stigma over them. However to be set up and falsely accused can have a severe negative impact on a person. People will always say things like 'he's the one that got off with rape' or 'there's no smoke without fire' when the victim is innocent of a crime he hasn't done.
I also believe that rapist should have heavy sentences for their crimes.

AngelsAckiz · 26/08/2018 14:13

No. Because women have been put in prison for withdrawing rape because of fear of trial or coercion by family or friends and although it's with the same as false rape claims, they've been prosecuted as such anyway. Absolute travesty.
The misconception that "not enough evidence" means "false rape claim" is a shockingly common part of rape culture.

This thread is about something that happens so rarely that it's not worth mentioning. What is worth mentioning, is the disgusting amount of rape cases that never end in prosecution. A shocking 6% end in conviction.

RomanyRoots · 26/08/2018 14:09

Yes, they should as that is completely different than real claims failing to convince a jury.
They should be named and shamed like the innocent person they claimed had raped them.
They should lose their job and have exactly the same treatment as those innocently accused.

SlartiAardvark · 26/08/2018 14:08

They should get the same sentence as their victim would have got if convicted of the non-offence.

heartsease68 · 26/08/2018 14:06

I also don't agree with the ' rape has to be true because why would anyone make up rape' argument. I think most claims are genuine but not because no one would want to make it up. There are plenty of malicious or mentally ill people out there who would do it.

heartsease68 · 26/08/2018 14:03

I think it's madness to say that a false rape claim is usually a genuine claim that didn't convince the jury. It may be attractive to think that but it's not true. There has to be evidence of deception - a case.

And what about deterring other false claims? That's also important.

Lichtie · 26/08/2018 13:59

She should absolutely go to jail. What makes it more difficult for real victims is people like her making up false claims.
It's a difficult enough crime to get a conviction with anyway precisely because the jury has to consider the possibility the person may be making it up.

noeffingidea · 26/08/2018 12:20

This is already covered by existing laws, eg perjury, conspiracy to pervert justice, etc. So if a crime is proved to have taken place then a custodial sentence should be considered. Why shouldn't it?

wielblad · 26/08/2018 12:15

A lot of these "false claims" are going to be real claims that just failed to convince a jury/judge beyond all reasonable doubt. That's a high barrier to get over. It's basically penalising a woman for making a complaint either without "sufficient evidence" or for being raped by a man who was better at persuading the jury of his version/had better lawyers/lucked out with getting a jury more likely to believe his version.

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