Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party

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Well whatever it was it's painfully obvious and goes to show that the victim is very much not what they care about here

It fucking makes my blood boil. That poor fucking girl and what he put her through the second time with his not guilty.

And the greens are all like oh well we care about human rights violations globally.

yeah but actual violent deranged sexual torture of a child on your doorstep isn't so much of a fuckign interest to you is it.

I'm getting really angry now.

Of course it does. Your parents and their sensibilities will influence you. If your parents are knitting their own yoghurt and weaving lentils chances are you will have that sensibility too.
Even if your parents are dreadful people then it will influence you not to be of that mindset.

If your parents divorced, remarried, had more children, will it influence your outlook on life or will it be all okay, because you know, children are resiliant?

Nothing I read the insertion about “human rights violations of women and girls all over the world” as a half-baked attempt to ward off the feminist/GC torrent that was coming their way.

We shouldn't forget in all of this that it was a tweet about AC that got Miranda Yardley banned from Twitter earlier in the year - mirandayardley.com/en/i-permanently-banned-twitter-make-worry/

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/27/greens-rising-star-quits-deputy-leader-race-after-father-jailed-for

Pencils - thanks for the spot.

Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to shoehorn that part of the quote into the GPs own statement, using a shit cut and paste job so you can see the font is different, and sounding peculiarly like they are more interested in ? obscuring his crimes or ? using it as a means to draw attention to the plight of people elsewhere in the world which is entirely inappropraite to be quite honest.

Who the fuck is in charge of their messaging?
A dudebro misogynist mate of "balloo"??

Presumably the police have looked - SS or whoever have gone to talk to children who have been in contact with him?

I don't know how this works. They must have done that though right?

That DM article - quote from Aimee

"because of the impact my role has on my family and the survivors of my father’s criminal behaviour".

That directly implies further victims.

DC was as we've all seen, involved with gymnastics club, scouts, also various charities, parkrun, prominent upstanding member of society etc

Generally it would be very unusual for a criminal of this type to go from nothing to the extreme crimes he was convicted of.

Common sense says that there must be more victims.
Aimee seems to say that as well?

We can’t really speculate. Aimee has clearly be brainwashed along with her mother. That comes across from her statement about trying to build bridges with him after being in care.
She needs a huge amount of help, and on reality should not have been given such a vocal and prominent part in the GP. Safeguarding issues should have been applied to her too.
It’s shows a total lack of judgement from the GP.
Maybe all parties should consider how much power is given to volunteers sitting round their kitchen tables

Living with a paedophile doesn't shape your outlook on life.

Of course it does. Your parents and their sensibilities will influence you. If your parents are knitting their own yoghurt and weaving lentils chances are you will have that sensibility too.
Even if your parents are dreadful people then it will influence you not to be of that mindset.

The slightly odd, different coloured text in the latest GP statement is a quote from last night's DM article:

Last night the Green Party said an investigation had been launched and it was 'urgently reviewing' its safeguarding policies after admitting they had no idea of the charges against Challenor when he worked as his daughter's agent.

A spokeswoman described Challenor's crimes as 'some of the gravest human rights violations that face women and girls across the world,' but it is understood Miss Challenor has not been sacked or suspended. Instead she volunteered to step down from her party roles.

Paedophile's are notoriously canny about their activities, picking children who will not disclose though sometimes they get it wrong, as in this case.

In Pennsylvania priests would give gold coloured crosses to children they abused so other priests new who they were.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/08/14/pennsylvania-grand-jury-report-on-sex-abuse-in-catholic-church-will-list-hundreds-of-accused-predator-priests/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ce237abdbe97

That’s not what you first implied placemats. You may have meant it that way, but your sentence read as if there’s no impact on the child of a pervert. There always is an affect on the children, though most do not go on to abuse. However many females end up with abusive men. If you mean that the abuse that you suffer in childhood does not give you the right or excuse to become a child abuser, then I agree with that. There is NEVER an excuse for being an abuser or for turning a blind eye if you, as an adult, know your parent is abusing children.

You seem confused about what you’re saying placemats

A person whose father is a paedophile doesn't by dent become a paedophile

no-one said they do!! That’s not anything like what your sentence implied!

The GP are trying to portray the rape and torture of a 10 year-old girl as a human rights violation.

Yep. They’re thinking ahead. They’re going to use this.

No it's not a joke.

A person whose father is a paedophile doesn't by dent become a paedophile.

The victim in this case will not become a paedophile. Most all the population of the world, all 7.8 billion have come into contact with a paedophile.

Thanks for the animal cruelty links,Cacha It's useful to have them referenced on here, and that doesn't look like a source that can be tampered with

after her father, who was previously her election agent, was jailed for abusing and raping a child.

David Challenor, 50, was jailed for 22 years last week after being convicted of torturing and raping a 10-year-old girl in the attic of the family home in Coventry.

This is the extent of the guardians coverage of the conviction. That’s it. Way to go guardian.

Ah, Rapey Riley. that’s the one.

What are they playing at?

The GP are trying to portray the rape and torture of a 10 year-old girl as a human rights violation.

Really, Greens. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

You’re right nothing, it does sound odd.

That was a pretty sympathetic article.

And Challoner Junior seems to have one expression: smugly patronising. On the other hand, if the shoe fits...

Thank you, Carol.

Aimee Challenor, 20, named her father, David, as her agent when she ran for Parliament in last year’s General Election and in council elections in May.

Challoner Junior gained 146 votes (out of 2741) and saw a downturn of 5.5% of GP voters from the previous year.

I wonder how many votes the Greens will get in Coventry in 2019.