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Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party

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WaddIelikeapenguin · 26/08/2018 02:36

"A young politician and transgender activist who is running for deputy leadership of the Green Party was fighting for her political life last night after it emerged that she had used her father as her election agent even though he faced charges of raping and torturing a 10-year-old girl."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rising-greens-star-aimee-challenor-will-not-quit-over-rapist-father-kngjwc8l5

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TimeLady · 27/08/2018 21:12

David 'Lucy' Challenor has now provided the far right with all the ammunition they need - a little girl cross dressing fetish combined with paedophilic rape and torture. Could it get any more toxic that that?

TerfsUp · 27/08/2018 20:57

Although I did enjoy the comment, "If I had a dollar for every gender, I'd have $2 and a pile of counterfeits

I thought that pretty funny, too.

Destinysdaughter · 27/08/2018 20:47

ItsAllGoingToBeFine yes I laughed at that one too!

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 20:35

The "man on the street" was never going to take kindly to the ideas of men saying "I'm a woman" and getting into places where their wives/ daughters are.

They were trying to get laws changed, rules changed in all the orgs quietly before those men noticed.

That's why they've been working so hard to shut women up.

Also, women are much less scary than men.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 27/08/2018 20:34

Although I did enjoy the comment, "If I had a dollar for every gender, I'd have $2 and a pile of counterfeits" Grin

Laniakea · 27/08/2018 20:25

not that I've looked but I doubt there would ever be a single positive comment about either the Greens or trans- people on Breitbart! I think not wanting to be arseholes like them is what makes people so open to trans ideology in the first place. Breitbart commentators are not people I'd want onside (bit like Corbyn & the BNP).

Destinysdaughter · 27/08/2018 20:16

Reading the now over 200 comments on the Breitbart article, it looks like the start of a massive backlash.

speakingwoman · 27/08/2018 19:46

I am so disgusted that I might have to read Breitbart for news.
Shame on the BBC.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 19:42

Yeah it means they have a fuckwit in charge of their statements on this matter

Juells · 27/08/2018 19:40

OOPS apologies, I see it's been discussed further back in the thread, missed it.

Juells · 27/08/2018 19:39

which include him committing some of the gravest human rights violations that face women and girls across the world

Can anyone guess what this means? Confused
(from the latest GP statement)

Destinysdaughter · 27/08/2018 19:32

www.breitbart.com/london/2018/08/27/transgender-green-party-candidate-quit-leadership-race-father-jailed-child-rape/

It's been reported on Breitbart news. Over 100 comments!

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 27/08/2018 19:27

I wrote a complaint to the BBC yesterday but I’m not expecting a response until tomorrow at least due to bank holiday.

GreenGloves · 27/08/2018 19:20

Would something like Feedback on R4 cover the fact that something wasn't covered by the BBC and should have been? I remember Feedback/Points of View covering negative responses to the play about a trans teen so I don't think they've been taken over by the wokes.

LassWiADelicateAir · 27/08/2018 19:15

Can everyone please take a few minutes to make a complaint

Several people have - including me. Some got a standard brush off. I haven't even got that.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 27/08/2018 16:59

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.

They may not mean to, but they do.

They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

Good old Philip Larkin.

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 27/08/2018 15:31

Placemats you’re changing the actual words people have said to something they never said or implied. I’m not going to engage with your further as frankly, I don’t think there would be a point and it’s derailing the thread.

placemats · 27/08/2018 14:47

OK so it's fine to post and speculate about the family life of those who live with a paedophile rapist now jailed, David Challenor? The disabled wife, the son now daughter?

But not challenge that those who live with, sporadically, or who come in contact, via friendship or social activities, with a paedophile are going to be scarred for life and will be influenced by the parents hidden deviant behaviour?

Blame everyone but the man who did this, as per usual.

Aimee Challenor rightly stood down. Aimee should not have been described as a 'rising star' in the Guardian article as this clearly breaks safeguarding guidelines, and (I believe) constitutes grooming when it comes to vulnerable people.

I'm no fan of A C. They themselves have consistently broken safeguarding guidelines. Questions should be asked of the Green Party too.

But ffs don't ever say that someone who knew a paedophile is themselves going to be scarred for life.

I've seen someone commit suicide by throwing themselves under a tube train. Fucking horrific. But I'm not permanently scarred by it, nor am I likely to commit suicide.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 14:46

I don't think caroline lucas would write shit like that.

She seemed very good.

She stepped back a bit a while ago and is now co leader.

it'll be some bloke dressed as a wombat in their press HQ.

SirVixofVixHall · 27/08/2018 14:25

I also thought the bit in the GP statement about women and girls read really oddly. It is a better response than the first one, but still pretty crap . Would Caroline Lucas not be writing it, and if so surely she could do better ? It still seems patched together and woolly .

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 14:23

No you're not being conseored but you are pullng the thread off topic on more generalised questions of pshycohology.

I'm not sure what it adds.

placemats · 27/08/2018 14:17

I'm not sure why you are going on about this and think you should maybe drop it.

Am I being censored now?

People, mainly celebs in puff pieces, bleat on about the wonderful family life they had at home with their parents. David Challenor did this too. I'm reminded of this from an author I don't like:

“All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.”

lowtide · 27/08/2018 14:11

Almost every mainstream outlet has now reported this apart from the bbc

Can everyone please take a few minutes to make a complaint. It’s shocking the bbc haven’t reported this so far. I mean I haven’t listened to every news bulletin but it’s not coming up on google.

ssl.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/?lang=en&reset=&uid=210269188

sashh · 27/08/2018 14:11

FFS

AC was on the WM police inclusion panel and thanked by the chief constable - in JUNE of this year

twitter.com/DaveThompsonCC/status/1006580907631890432

NothingOnTellyAgain · 27/08/2018 14:03

I think all your childhood experiences shape you, PLacemats.
What does this have to do with anything.
DC has been convicted and there are some serious questions around the judgement of Aimee and TBH how much Aimee is controlled / influenced by DC.

I'm not sure why you are going on about this and think you should maybe drop it.

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