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Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party

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WaddIelikeapenguin · 26/08/2018 02:36

"A young politician and transgender activist who is running for deputy leadership of the Green Party was fighting for her political life last night after it emerged that she had used her father as her election agent even though he faced charges of raping and torturing a 10-year-old girl."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rising-greens-star-aimee-challenor-will-not-quit-over-rapist-father-kngjwc8l5

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RedToothBrush · 26/08/2018 10:02

Every time I read "Baloo" it gives me that chills on the back of the neck feeling. How was that alone not a red flag?

Baloo is a commonly used name for a cub leader. It is slightly less sinister than your initial reaction might be. However using it in contexts outside Scouting is more of an issue.

Macareaux · 26/08/2018 09:58

Also, was Challenor on bail for 3 years? If the evidence in the attic was so compelling as it seems, why was he not on remand?

ErrolTheDragon · 26/08/2018 09:57

Why is this not all over the press?

There may be ongoing investigations into his links to scouts etc?

Macareaux · 26/08/2018 09:57

I didn't mean to use 'her'. I was trying to keep it pronoun free. For obvious reasons.

Macareaux · 26/08/2018 09:56

I'm prepared to go along with the idea that Aimee did not know what her father was perpetrating until Aimee was interviewed in relation to the charges.

I also accept that Aimee is probably a hugely fucked up person from living in that dysfunctional family.

However.

The Green Party, like Labour with Lily Madigan, are so ideologically bound to the transgender narrative and ideology that they override all common sense and evidence in their efforts to support this toxic ideology.

If Aimee considers themselves suitable to be deputy leader of a political party but did not consider that having a charged rapist and paedophile as an agent was highly inappropriate, then Aimee needs psychological help and needs to step down from public life.

I do think we have to be careful how we conflate Aimee with David Challenor's heinous crimes.

CaitlynsCat · 26/08/2018 09:56

Fishywishyhead, not to worry see attachment

Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party
Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 26/08/2018 09:54

Why is this not all over the press?

Well, silly question...

Scouts, gym, politician who, if not complicit was living and working alongside an abusive manipulator and was instrumental in attempting to shred the very safeguards which would have made that predator able to target more victims. It should be catnip!

Every time, they say lessons will be learned and they never are!

Savile - too powerful and protected by trusted institutions. A charitable celebrity would never do that!
Catholic church - too powerful and protected by trusted institutions. They're priests! They made a vow and put on a dog collar, they'd never do that!
Self I'D - too powerful and protected by political parties - TWAW! They say so and wear dresses, they'd never do that.

The only people learning are the predators who arre never going to walk past an open door.

CaitlynsCat · 26/08/2018 09:53

David Challenor also appears to have run a wheelchair basketball team for disabled children, called 'The Bears'

Fishywishyhead · 26/08/2018 09:50

CaitlynsCat The tweet up thread you linked has been deleted... funny that.

CaitlynsCat · 26/08/2018 09:49

This is David Challenor's running club:

www.dogandbear.org/

He is the 'Bear' (Baloo)

www.parkrun.org.uk/leamington/news/2014/10/05/run-report-182-parkruns-10th-birthday-run/

AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 09:47

where he was part of a 'Dog & Bear' (Aimee also identifies/d as a 'dog') running duo.

.......

Not sure what can be said about that that isn't banworthy.

Cockapoomummy · 26/08/2018 09:45

I reported physical abuse and sexualised actions of a scout leader to scouts in 2007. I’m still waiting for someone to get back to me. I wouldn’t hold your breath for a response from them.

CaitlynsCat · 26/08/2018 09:45

David Challenor would appear to have exposure to very large numbers of children, for example in his role as volunteer for Coventry Parkrun, where he was part of a 'Dog & Bear' (Aimee also identifies/d as a 'dog') running duo.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 09:42

Does anyone have a child currently in scouts? They'll probably take inquiries from those who do more seriously.

honestmushroom · 26/08/2018 09:41

This

The lack of understanding that the Greens and Labour have shown in thrusting some young members into the spotlight, and victimising adult women in their parties who have sounded a note of caution, shows up the sexism that still exists in politics today, 100 years after we got the vote.

Cockapoomummy · 26/08/2018 09:41

You can’t make it stand on onus to disprove. That is ridiculous.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 09:41

And again, why is a 20 year old even being considered for the position of deputy leader? I quite like Mhairi Black but if anyone suggested her for the equivalent position at the age she is now I'd think they'd lost their marbles. Someone that age isn't ready for the job, won't do it well, and is being set up to fail.

littleducks · 26/08/2018 09:40

I think from some of the twitter and facebook screen shots that he was historically a scout leader but continued using the nickname Baloo after no longer being involved.

I think the scouts need to make a statement to if that is the case though, and if he was involved in scouting after the animal abuse charges and SS involvement then there needs a full investigation and changes. Will be contacting tomorrow (scouts.org.uk/media-centre/ if anyone else has concerns).

OrchidInTheSun · 26/08/2018 09:38

I feel very sorry for AC. They have been groomed from an early age, living in an extraordinarily toxic environment where the family is victimised by the outside world.

I hold the leadership of the GP entirely responsible. AC should never have been put in a position of trust and power.

CallingDannyBoy · 26/08/2018 09:37

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TimeLady · 26/08/2018 09:37

Self-promoting PR spin in Jan 2015:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/moved-together-36-hours-after-5041659

AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 09:35

Every time I read "Baloo" it gives me that chills on the back of the neck feeling. How was that alone not a red flag?

Juells · 26/08/2018 09:34

I've just clicked on the article and see the significance of what a pp said re the leaflet the man on the left is holding.

Juells · 26/08/2018 09:32

Aimee is also a victim in all this.

Yesterday I was feeling sorry for them. Then last night it suddenly occurred to me "They were a double act, Aimee and Baloo, working together to take down women's safeguards". It's not possible that in a two-up two down house they other occupants of the house wouldn't know what was going on. Add the FB post from 2015 about the police, and it's obvious they knew. If they questioned the mother about the contents of the attic, then they questioned the other occupants of the house.

MnerXX · 26/08/2018 09:31

This won’t be an isolated incident. You would imagine there are more abuses out there. Those poor children