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Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party

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WaddIelikeapenguin · 26/08/2018 02:36

"A young politician and transgender activist who is running for deputy leadership of the Green Party was fighting for her political life last night after it emerged that she had used her father as her election agent even though he faced charges of raping and torturing a 10-year-old girl."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rising-greens-star-aimee-challenor-will-not-quit-over-rapist-father-kngjwc8l5

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hackmum · 26/08/2018 11:05

I also find it difficult to believe there was only one victim. One has to assume that the police would have made enquiries with the scouts, the gym club etc. So maybe no one else came forward, or maybe the CPS decided that they had enough evidence to prosecute a single case without causing additional trauma to other child witnesses. It's incredibly worrying. I seriously hope the Scouts (and the other children's schemes he was a part of) are reviewing their procedures.

placemats · 26/08/2018 11:02

Spot on AveABanana

Mrs Challenor was a very vulnerable young woman when she met the paedophile and rapist David Challenor. She had given birth to three children by the age of 23, the last one had sadly died at that time and she was suffering from a deep grief, naturally, after the loss of her baby. They moved in together after two days of meeting and their meeting was celebrated in a piece on the Daily Mirror. The Challenor's had three children together and they all went into care.

WomanWithAltitude · 26/08/2018 11:02

The three years it took to come to court is also odd.

No, it isn't. That's about standard in my experience of sexual offence trials.

And it's also normal for offenders to be bailed. I agree that it's not right, but that's how it is.

Roomba · 26/08/2018 11:01

The photograph at the top of the article is an interesting choice - look at the pamphlet held by the person on the left.

Can't believe I missed that when I first read the article - it really does say it all!

AveABanana · 26/08/2018 10:52

There is no way what he did to that girl was the first and only time he ever did anything like that.

And by "anything like that" I'm not just talking about the animal abuse, or the predatory moving in with a very vulnerable woman within hours of meeting her, or the narcissistic need to constantly be in the newspapers, or all these groups he's joined or started to be near children.

paintedwingsandgiantrings · 26/08/2018 10:50

So, which media outlets have and haven't run with this so far?

I've got:

Times - "Rising Greens star Aimee Challenor will not quit over rapist father" article focusing on Greens, mentions DC's involvement in scouts and gymnastics but missed that the house where DC & Aimee live and where the crimes happened, is the registered address of the Greens in Coventry.

Metro
Daily Mail
Sun
Independent
Scottish Daily Record
Local press in Coventry & Birmingham

  • all reported on crimes and mention DC fetish for dressing as a little girl / adult baby but not the link to Greens / Aimee. Some did follow up with pictures from the attic where the crimes took place

BBC - nothing
Guardian - nothing (most recent article from the Guardian on the Challenors, this article celebrating Aimee as a politician.

What about the Telegraph and Sky, have they mentioned it at all?

What have I missed?

LadybirdsAreBirds · 26/08/2018 10:47

Got exactly the same response from the BBC Hmm

TimeLady · 26/08/2018 10:39

Let's not forget that Jess Bradley is a self-confessed advocate of 'restorative justice' and prison abolition:

www.nusconnect.org.uk/articles/six-things-you-can-do-to-show-solidarity-with-trans-prisoners

www.nusconnect.org.uk/elected-officers/trans-officer

It's a murky pond.....

placemats · 26/08/2018 10:35

David Challenor and his wife were not circumspect when it came to protecting the identities of their children whilst in the care of social services. Their children, including Aimee are vulnerable. I believe the Green Party should remove Aimee from public office and give the support needed. The GP should also be ashamed of the disgraceful statement made regarding the imprisonment of paedophile and child rapist David Challenor.

I'm still in shock about this. The more I read the more I get angry. No lessons have been learnt.

LangCleg · 26/08/2018 10:27

AC's political activism is all about destroying sex as a meaningful categorisation which will destroy safeguarding as we know it for women and children.

DC is a convicted paedophile who would have found it easier to commit crimes - as would all other male predators - in the society organised in the way AC is campaigning for.

The Green Party has been revealed to have completely abandoned any form of due diligence for party activists and officials - while simultaneously supporting AC and DC's political aims of dissolving safeguarding for women and children.

If anyone thinks this is a satisfactory state of affairs and so unimportant that the state broadcaster and other politicians should ignore it, then shame on them.

dundee12 · 26/08/2018 10:26

The photo of the leaflet pretty much sums it up.

placemats · 26/08/2018 10:24

Wow, that tweet re Virgin Trains was deleted and done just in the last hours because I was able to access it earlier this morning.

Does the BBC not get it? This case involving David Challenor is a grooming, safeguarding and sexual abuse issue. Have they learnt nothing from the past?

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 26/08/2018 10:21

I am working my way though thre thread but so far i agree completely with pywife

OrchidInTheSun · 26/08/2018 10:21

Juell I mean! Apologies

OrchidInTheSun · 26/08/2018 10:20

Sorry Joelle - I missed out the 'believed' there. I don't believe they were victimised in case that isn't clear! I think DC is a highly manipulative predator who has groomed the whole family and their community. Hiding in plain sight

AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 10:12

I assume the investigation has ruled out other victims, but this sort of activity rarely involves just the one.

I'd be rather surprised if there weren't other victims.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 26/08/2018 10:11

AAK I hadn't, thank you.

That is rage inducing! Angry

Presumably like all those concerns about their stars weren't newsworthy in the past. I'm usually a staunch defender of the beeb, but they cannot allow another scandal in which silence may be taken for complicity.

Hattifattner · 26/08/2018 10:10

waddle
^I think it's a shame the animal cruelty charges arent mentioned."

is there more information on this?

Iused2BanOptimist · 26/08/2018 10:10

Alice perfectly summed up.

Some excellent comments on the times article.
I haven't read all the details and reports of the crimes because I don't want to so I may be missing something but I am left with many questions. I'm not understanding the timescale - was the abuse carried out on multiple occasions over a period of time? It was clearly appalling to merit 22 year sentence which is much more than many dreadful crimes get. The extensively equipped attic suggest this certainly wasn't a one off. I assume the investigation has ruled out other victims, but this sort of activity rarely involves just the one.
The three years it took to come to court is also odd. I would like to think further inquiries are ongoing - all those digital images involved other children and each one merits its own investigation.

JoanSummers · 26/08/2018 10:08

CaitlynsCat

Here is Aimee in June, bigging up Dad:

twitter.com/GreenPartyAimee/status/1007929605330792448

"This page does not exist"

AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 10:07

Did you see the response from the BBC someone posted in the other thread, Alice? Apparently it's just not newsworthy enough but we wouldn't understand their complex high level editorial decisions.

CallingDannyBoy · 26/08/2018 10:06

Macareaux -agree with you about not conflating Aimee with his crimes but I think it raises issues of competency and judgement.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 26/08/2018 10:05

Yes, I can see that if there are specific ongoing investigations that can't be compromised.

But the rest?

There should be questions gale being asked of the Greens today and the Press is acting like the three monkeys.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/08/2018 10:05

Would be less weird if he didn't seem to have a "thing" for seeing himself as a bear.

(How fucked up is it that I'm not sure if pointing out that a convicted child rapist may have a furry fetish is allowed on MN?)

Juells · 26/08/2018 10:04

OrchidInTheSun

I feel very sorry for AC. They have been groomed from an early age, living in an extraordinarily toxic environment where the family is victimised by the outside world.

Yeah, it's the family that were victimised, and yeah it was the outside world that doing the victimising. 🤨