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Andrew Gilligan Sunday Times Challenor Green Party

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WaddIelikeapenguin · 26/08/2018 02:36

"A young politician and transgender activist who is running for deputy leadership of the Green Party was fighting for her political life last night after it emerged that she had used her father as her election agent even though he faced charges of raping and torturing a 10-year-old girl."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rising-greens-star-aimee-challenor-will-not-quit-over-rapist-father-kngjwc8l5

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Destinysdaughter · 26/08/2018 18:43

If the offence was in 2010, but not reported till 2015, then that torture chamber in the attic must have been there for all those years, since the police found it still there as the victim described. So the obvious question is, how many other victims were abused in there..?

WomblingWoman · 26/08/2018 18:41

Ok so AC has withdrawn from the Deputy Leadership election but is "only" taking a break from the spokesperson role as I understand it??

I make no comment on AC's perception of DC's guilt, but the decision to remain in the house and maintain close links whilst using DC as an election agent was not just "poor judgement" - especially for someone offering advice to organisations such as the girl guides/schools etc that have safeguarding implications. Not disclosing this information to the party prior to standing in the DL contest also shows a dismal lack of basic political acumen and a total lack of empathy for the victim(S?).

Also noted the use of women "plural" and lack of use of the word child....

Am noticing the parallels between Jess here...a statement then head down for no further comment (from the individual or the organisation) - presumably to leave the door open a few months down the line when it's blown over....

AC and JB - we will remember. You can count on it.

Bienchen · 26/08/2018 18:39

AC the transperson has about as much in common with old school transsexuals as haddock with vegan food.

Bienchen · 26/08/2018 18:37

ItsAllGoingToBeFine t's good to see that Aimee took all the twitter feedback on the greens statement on board - Aimee's statement is much more appropriate I think. Appropriate? Honestly? It is all about AC! Did not know the full extent (just how much??), victims (plural). Shares hobbies with dad of (cough) photography and computing. The more I see the more I get the feeling that these are examples of omega xy chromosome bearers that enjoy the special status the trans umbrella affords.

wonderstuff · 26/08/2018 18:37

Just wanted to say thanks for putting up this thread, prompted me to vote in GP leadership election, I’d forgotten about it.

CaitlynsCat · 26/08/2018 18:35

There is a disturbing statement in the family law report which suggests that Challenor planned this meticulously.

BeyondRadicalisationPortal · 26/08/2018 18:28

I can't find where I read it now - there is a mysterious lack of dates in all reports, so it may have been deleted...?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/08/2018 18:26

It's good to see that Aimee took all the twitter feedback on the greens statement on board - Aimee's statement is much more appropriate I think.

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 26/08/2018 18:24

Oh totally agree. I don’t want to say too much as it could be triggering and insensitive to any victims. But yes. IMO there will be others.

lowtide · 26/08/2018 18:20

@IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan
That’s what I thought.
But sadly if you logically think about it, not many predators go from nothing to rape and torture.
There is usually something in between

whattimeislove · 26/08/2018 18:18

I didn't realise the attack was in 2010.

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 26/08/2018 18:17

Could the plural “women” mean the victims in the downloaded material?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/08/2018 18:13

my thoughts are firmly with the survivors of my father’s abhorrent behavior including young women whose lives will be impacted forever

So more than one then? That wasn't reported...

LadybirdsAreBirds · 26/08/2018 18:11

God it's so very very creepy and worrying. The Challenor family home is very small

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 26/08/2018 18:10

The offences committed by my father took place in the attic of our family home. I did not go into the attic during my adult life it was considered ‘dad’s space’.

This comment is interesting. Aimee specifies that she didn’t go in the attic during their adult life. Sounds like she was allowed in “dad’s space” as a child. Worrying.

SPOFS · 26/08/2018 18:05

The use of the plural suggests that there may be other cases in motion, hence the reporting restrictions. Fair enough, if that is the case.

TimeLady · 26/08/2018 18:02

Perhaps Aimee and Jess can spend some quality time out together, comparing notes of how it all went so horribly wrong.

Aimee really cannot now sit pontificating over prison reform issues for transitioning prisoners, as in this open letter from Dec 2015 when Aimee was the first signatory:

lgbtiq.greenparty.org.uk/news/2015/12/07/prisontransform/

We call upon the Ministry of Justice to:
...
house trans people in the estate of their acquired gender in the first instance, and only move them into the other estate on their request or after a thorough investigation concludes there is no other possible alternative

Not when their father is a convicted paedophile rapist who called himself Lucy.

BeyondRadicalisationPortal · 26/08/2018 17:59

And yes, reading the statement it is clear that Aimee did know about the charges, but probably assumed DC wasn't going to be found guilty.

SirVixofVixHall · 26/08/2018 17:58

Agree Procrastinator. That is a calculated phrase to give room for whatever A clearly did know.

BeyondRadicalisationPortal · 26/08/2018 17:57

While Aimee has undoubtably minimised the age of the victim, I think the "young women" refers to their age now rather than at the time. The offence was in 2010, reported to police in 2015, and now convicted in 2018

Procrastinator1 · 26/08/2018 17:57

She's "on a break" from her green party roles but has stood down from the deputy leadership contest.
She didn't now about the "full details of his crimes until recently", so she knew something.

The Green Party need to sack her to have any credibility.

SirVixofVixHall · 26/08/2018 17:57

Why is Aimee still in the party ?

SirVixofVixHall · 26/08/2018 17:55

Weasley. No mention of children- “young woman” . The victim isn’t a young women you self serving tosser, this is a child.
Also note not knowing the “full details”. Clearly does not state not knowing about charges...
Very obvious reading that , that Aimee did know about the charges, chose to ignore or not believe them, and also chose not to tell the party. Too busy trying to silence women.
That is a shitty response.

Iused2BanOptimist · 26/08/2018 17:54

The statement refers several times to survivors in the plural : survivors of my father’s abhorrent behavior including young women whose lives will be impacted forever
I think there is probably a lot more to come. There may well be a good legal reason for limited reporting.
Being a trusting sort I take the statement at face value and feel sorry for AC and siblings.

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 26/08/2018 17:51

True!!