UK police telling people who identify as trans that if they feel victimised by a Daily Mail article they should call 101 to report it.

DM are fucking vile about petty much everyone aren't they?

As PP said if we all reported to police every misogynistic article in DM we'd never get anywhere.

misogyny isn't on the hate crime list though, for obvious reasons. Except ? Notts good for them.

Does anyone care about schoolgirls from traditional cultural backgounds who have virtually no voice at all. They may, for a host of reasons, be concerned about sharing toilet and changing facilities with the pupil mentioned in the article. Are their views taken on board at all? Or is it assumed that they, like MNettes, lesbians, TERFs, and DM readers, can simply be dismissed as 'haters' so ignored.

Absolutely unacceptable. And with the likely outcome that a marginalised group is further marginalised. At a point when we want integration and equality.

Transactivism jumped the shark so long ago, it's now impossible to parody.

To give you a good example of the quality of the people behind police twitter accounts. That is to say, lack of quality....

I saw that the social media person for Merseyside Police mentioned that s/he had seen some horrendous abuse aimed at Jean H. S/he asked Jean whether she wanted to report them as misogynistic hate incidents.

I don't suppose that person knew much about the law but their heart was in the right place. Bless

I think it's great. The more batshit some of the people on the fringe of this (no)debate look, the more people who are not that fussed in the middle will start to get pissed off at being told that a great deal of what passes with the majority as perfectly reasonable comments and questions are considered by some as "hate".

It's rather comforting seeing other people on those Twitter threads being incredulous that they are not reading a spoof account.

Their rank disbelief over the direction all this is taking is reassuring.

Time to untwist those knickers.

LBGT police Uk is not a police operations or investigation unit. It's members comprise gay and lesbian and bi and trans police officers and support staff. They advise Chief Officers. They talk to each other. They keep in contact with local LBGT organisations. They should have their fingers on the pulse - more of that below.

They are quite right to say that (what trans people perceive to be) hate incidents need to be reported to the police.

They must be feeling pretty stupid at the fact that they have no knowledge of any such incidents - despite their contacts and networks and monitoring mechanisms. It's almost as if the hate incidents aren't happening

Let's just wait and see whether those so-called hate incidents ever see the light of day. And if they do, let's see whether investigators need to take any action except to 'note' the concerns of the complainant and give advice.

It's about time that a light was shone on all these mythical transphobic incidents like 'misgendering' and 'being mean'.

As an aside, perhaps LBGT+ Uk can provide the robust evidence to support trans claims about being the most victimised group ever. If any body should know where to lay its hand on the information, then this is it.

A chilling effect on free speech indeed.

Great. Can we also report the Guardian for their constant misogynistic articles?

The picture was a serious error of judgement.

One more thought on the toilet guy - the one who wanted to force a girl's head into a bowl of dog piss while anally raping her. Apparently this was a joke and hilariously funny. Suppose he'd added just one word - "trans" - in front of the word "girl", would it still have been a good joke?

BeefTomato: "All hate incidents should be reported" - maybe it's time to start taking them at their word. Starting with the toilet wanker and the "punch a TERF" folk."

I agree. There's a whole bunch of examples at the moment on the Collating Evidence thread. Plus that particularly vile 'toilet wanker', which is so deeply vicious it surely counts as a hate crime. It's a shame 101 is just a phone service rather than an email one.

PS I still can't believe people would actually phone 101 and say they felt victimised by a Sarah Vine article and the police would take it seriously. What kind of madness is this?

It's brilliant. I wish with all my might that Sarah Vine gets a knock on the door. The woman has got tremendous power and reach.

She would peak trans the entire nation with one flick of her manacled wrist.

TRAs are really not bright.

Oh yes because of course sexual assault is about attraction and not power.

Ah, the old 'lesbians are also a threat to women and girls, so...' argument.

More proof that too many TRAs have no idea what women and girls are afraid of or what their daily experiences are like.

Is that even a real group? Sounds like a joke.

Holy shit, I've just checked on twitter and it's real. They're really truly laughably batshit crazy.

Seems to me that the mythical 'right not to be offended' now exists - but only for some sections of the community.

How could anyone feel victimised by that article in particular?

The picture of Ja’mie King was a little below the belt, though...

"All hate incidents should be reported" - maybe it's time to start taking them at their word. Starting with the toilet wanker and the "punch a TERF" folk.

How can you possibly feel victimised by an article? How does that even work? I thought the police were supposed to be far too busy to be dealing with trivia.

The Cops are going to arrest Sarah, I wonder how Michael feels about Maria Miller?