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UK police telling people who identify as trans that if they feel victimised by a Daily Mail article they should call 101 to report it.

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Stickerladiesoftheworldunite · 24/08/2018 14:59

twitter.com/FeministRoar/status/1032972199647502347?s=20

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OlennasWimple · 26/08/2018 02:37

FFS

I hope they do send the boys in blue round to Sarah Vine's house. Help accelerate the peak trans that I see going on across the country now

Italiangreyhound · 26/08/2018 01:04

bd67th those links to police forces are absolutely chilling.

thebewilderness · 26/08/2018 00:48

It may seem a small difference but to qualify as gender reassignment you must make the commitment to live your life in your new gender. The EA is quite explicit that it is necessary to have the protected characteristic. You can't just identify as the opposite sex and bingo protected by anti discrimination law.

heresyandwitchcraft · 26/08/2018 00:39

IIRC - the EA 2010 protects "Gender Reassignment" - the process of moving from one gender to another.
Not "gender identity." This is a subtle but important distinction, because someone's internal feeling of identity isn't technically covered - the perceived process of "reassignment" ("transition") is...

JustAnotherFeminist · 25/08/2018 22:47

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Vickyyyy · 25/08/2018 22:36

Absolute waste of police time. as per usual when it comes to stuff like this. I am sure that there are some genuine hate crimes committed towards trans people (likely mostly by men) but this kind of thing makes it all a bit of a joke really.

longtimelurkingtrans · 25/08/2018 00:37

I truly despair. If they want to feel victimised then come to my backwater of a town, It won't be newspaper articles or females/feminists (my friends/protectors when out) but straight guys, So full of rage to be confronted by a gay/trans guy like me and then give verbal abuse or the kicking I/we richly deserve.

Stickerladiesoftheworldunite · 24/08/2018 23:10

Boney
I know. Had to scratch my head for a minute on that one!

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SingeBuggerCack · 24/08/2018 22:55

Is being victimised by an article the same as being assaulted by a piece of paper ?

Well, papercuts can be really nasty, you know. Literal violence.

SanctimoniousMorph · 24/08/2018 22:37

Maybe they need to report the hate crime website for committing a transphobic hate crime?

I say this in jest, while knowing it is entirely possible this will happen.

SanctimoniousMorph · 24/08/2018 22:36

I think Sarah Vine is safe. A TRA has been trying to report it as a hate crime but apparently the hate crime reporting site doesn't have options for the whole 57 genders and none of the options available adequately describe the TRA so they've given up in a huff:

twitter.com/LGBTpoliceuk/status/1032879426667773953

Maybe they need to report the hate crime website for committing a transphobic hate crime?

LoveCompost · 24/08/2018 22:26

Is being victimised by an article the same as being assaulted by a piece of paper ?

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 24/08/2018 22:19

Can you still email Crimestoppers?

TheCountryGirl · 24/08/2018 21:58

I just want to point out the stupid gobshite on Twitter is NOT me!👍🏻

thebewilderness · 24/08/2018 21:13

What an effective way to intimidate journalists into silence on male violence and police abuse.

AngryAttackKittens · 24/08/2018 21:04

So can women call in and say we feel victimized by the DMs Sidebar of Shame when they post yet another set of "look at her, she's gained 2 pounds the fat cow" or "check out this 14 year old girl flaunting her legs" articles?

hackmum · 24/08/2018 20:19

Gender identity is on the list, so we could argue it’s a hate crime against those who identify as women (also known as women).

FlippinFumin · 24/08/2018 19:09

misogyny isn't on the hate crime list though

Nottinghamshire Police have been trialling it though. So perhaps all crimes of misogny could be reported there? I am sure they will love it for their stats!

I am sure there is a thread about it somewhere.

BoneyBackJefferson · 24/08/2018 18:56

Stickerladiesoftheworldunite Fri 24-Aug-18 15:40:21

From your picture

"straight trans girls should be fine"

That is some serious mental gymnastics.

YouCalled · 24/08/2018 18:20

Instead of calling 101 could just forward to twitter.com/wyp_hatecrime?lang=en or nationally
twitter.com/true_vision_hc

ErrolTheDragon · 24/08/2018 18:04

Well, if they want to 'peak trans' 101 call handlers, carry on.

bd67th · 24/08/2018 17:53

Ah, the old 'lesbians are also a threat to women and girls, so...' argument.

Lesbians aren't, because they don't have a) dicks and b) a massive sense of male sexual entitlement.

More proof that too many TRAs have no idea what women and girls are afraid of or what their daily experiences are like.

Yup, which is why they don't belong in feminism and aren't fit to representative us as women's officers.

MrsPear · 24/08/2018 17:34

And now I know what peak trans my mum - being it on. Can you imagine the dm headline if they arrest Sarah Vine?! Fabulous

bd67th · 24/08/2018 17:32

Meanwhile, the police "no-crime" rapes wrongly, they don't investigate rapes properly, their rape investigation officers sexually-abuse children, and they pressure victims to retract accusations. And these examples are from just two forces. This institutionalised misogyny is repeated in every police force across the country, but they have time to interview Linda Bellos and Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull for gender critical words that some trans people didn't like, and have time to take 101 calls from people who don't like a lawful newspaper article.

misogyny isn't on the hate crime list though

It's almost like we live in a world run by men for male convenience.

RedToothBrush · 24/08/2018 17:19

Good luck to them!

It'd have to go through the CPS.
If, in the unlikely event it did, it'd end up being a very high profile court case.
If it ended up as a court case, the DM would have to defend themselves to the last because of the implications for freedom of the press and the DMs entire existence.
It'd also have huge political ramifications which politicians would have to get up to their necks in.

Bring it on I say.

If they are serious they are absolute muppets.

They aren't serious btw. This is just an attempt at intimidation. Nothing more.