Is it true that in the UK in 2018 - no political party believes that women are full human beings with as much right to autonomy and self-direction as any man?

It seems for a while now that gender critical people are politically homeless.

We should start our own political party. So we can have our voices really heard!!

What should we call ourselves?

My MP doesn't give a shiny shit. Safe seat in Wokesville

YogaPants - great post. I'd add: any ideology that rests on individual identity will always default to existing power structures (as we are already seeing with the invisibility of FTM trans people compared MTF). No hyper-individualist ideology can ever be progressive for this reason. That our entire left seems to have been brainwashed to pretend this isn't so is a complete mystery to me.

that's a really interesting post yoga pants, and true

You could add a belief that women are secondary, exist to "support" men etc which is the first point but it's a hierarchy. We are helpmeets.

I think that's a really interesting point YogaPants.

I will definitely be spoiling my ballot. I can't vote for any party that believes 'woman' is a feeling and not a material biological difference to men.

This has made me realise I need to write to my MP.

I think what has led to TWAW gaining so much political traction is that it is essentially a conservative (in an American Christian fundamentalist type way rather than a British way) belief system dressed up as liberal-progressive.

I don’t think it is liberal at all.

To embrace it you need to believe in:

1. mind-body dualism. People have separate souls and bodies that exist independently of each other.
2. men and women have different and set roles in society
3. biology (evolution) is secondary (i.e. unimportant) compared with your soul/spirituality

O didn’t repeat myself in real life

Local Lib Dem’s done- that should be an interesting reply.
The subject was
WOMEN DONT HAVE PENISES

I also mentioned;
In light of the recent decent into no platforming women, the denial of biology and the blind following of nonsensical dogma.
In light of the recent decent into no platforming women, the denial of biology and the blind following of nonsensical dogma.
I am spoiling my vote until ANY party comes out with a pro woman platform.

Anybody want to join me? Might be good to get lots in at once while sticker woman is doing such an amazing job!

The spoiling vote sentence has just gone off to jeremy’s Email. Who else next-

Yep my vote up for grabs too apart from UKIP or similar.

This is the first time in my life (50 years old) that I find myself genuinely in a political wasteland.

I believe in none of them. Not one. Not one MP, not one party, represents me, simply because I am a woman. No other reason. Simply because I have two X chromosomes.

How fucking depressing.

#Iwillspoilmyvoteuntilanypartycomesoutwithaprowomanplatform.

It’s a bit long. But it makes sense.

Langcleg ! There’s the hashtag right there.

I see this as my vote is up for grabs.

Same here. I'm telling all of them that my ballot paper will be spoiled until any party comes out with a pro-woman platform.

ShotsFired

Of course you should use it. On the Julia Long thread I commented that women are becoming more articulate and to the point about all this and it's because we've been educating ourselves, sharing information and using our collective knowledge / wisdom - so much of it being shared via this board.

@tiredandweary Like many others, if a party rocks up and promises to respect sex segregated spaces, stops funding groups that gaslight children, insist that no child is experimented on with off label drugs and agrees that women don't have penises then they can have my bloody vote. Because to enshrine in law men's personal beliefs, fantasies and sexual fetishes is as dangerous a precedent as there could be.

If you don't object I will use this as the basis for my next letter to my MP (I will be forwarding him the consultation/my response to it and will use this type of simple "how to win votes and influence people" explanation in the cover note)

I don’t think I will ever trust another party again. I don’t think I ever had a complete faith in them anyway. I could take the rough with the smooth though. But seeing this rot, go right through so many big parties, forums and public life people just parroting anti female double speak. Has seriously made me think we are surrounded by people who are incapable of individual thought and the basic ability to do their job as our political champions. Rant over. I’m having a wine.

I see this as my vote is up for grabs. Have voted Labour for decades - but they're unelectable.
No matter how awful the Tories are, having seen Labour / Momentum's bullying, misogyny, antisemitism and outright hatred of anyone who thinks differently is chilling. Even a relatively innocent food like jerk chicken is used by a Labour MP to divide people fgs.
Like many others, if a party rocks up and promises to respect sex segregated spaces, stops funding groups that gaslight children, insist that no child is experimented on with off label drugs and agrees that women don't have penises then they can have my bloody vote. Because to enshrine in law men's personal beliefs, fantasies and sexual fetishes is as dangerous a precedent as there could be. Once one belief becomes law (TWAW) then there will be no stopping a torrent of people's beliefs being enshrined in law. It is incredibly dangerous.

"Woman by Name group"

So totally confirming a view that woman is just a title, that anyone can have, and not a descriptor for half the population.

The speed with which the idea that woman is nothing more than a social group, like Goths or Elvis fans, is really worrying. I suppose a lot of people never saw us as people in the first place

"fuzzy feelings and garment preferences."

#HeelzAndFeelz

The Conservatives are in bed with DUP. I wonder what DUP think?
I found this

ngendr.org.uk/2017/06/03/the-2017-general-election-manifestos-what-do-they-offer-for-trans-and-non-binary-people/

They all lump women in with minority groups.

Women are half of the population and are underrepresented in areas of power because they are women, and have women's lives and biology and are brought up as women and have history against their inclusion. Ways need to be found to correct the imbalance.

Minorities are underrepresented because they are a minority and ways need to be found to make sure their needs are considered otherwise they get forgotten about, but they can also be overrepresented (like men). Half of them are women (usually).

They need different methods to make power accountable.

In all the time I've been able to vote I think I've voted Green once and maybe Lib Dem once. That would be back in the 80's.

Since then I've only ever spoilt my ballot as I don't think I've ever had a political home and I trust no one!

This issue has really cemented the fact that no political party believes that women are full human beings with as much right to autonomy and self-direction as any man.

What YesSir says above has really been brought into focus by the current assault on the rights of women and girls. I agree with every word.

The number of lefty bros who seem to have been straining at the leash just waiting for a chance to spew their hidden misogyny and get head pats for it is sickening - I'd take a straight up old school sexist who's never tried to hide that fact any day of the week over those cowardly woke turds.

I don't know how we can stop this and my cynical downer nature tells me that the top down grooming of schools, the law, the police, NHS, third sector and the government has been going on too long under the radar - the agenda has already been well and truly set with general ignorance of said agenda being taken as acceptance.

Ultimately I don't think it matters who's in government, the assault on the rights of women and girls looks like it's continuing apace, it's beyond depressing.......