Dr Julia Long has just been brilliant on LBC

Brilliant interview - thank you Julia and Nick!

YEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Julia is a superstar. Magnificent performance.
Also, really respect the way Nick Ferrari approached this. "Identifying as a woman on Tuesdays" was a perfect way of framing the argument for the problems with self-ID. His conversations with the callers wondering about all the implications was like listening to someone "peak trans" on air.
And the speculation as to why the Guardian got a sticker....
So so so good.
Gonna listen again.
Thanks for sharing.

I think I need to use the 'Angry Women' changing room. FFS. Well done Julia!

They all have irony bypass surgery hackmum

They are desperate to get into the women's toilets.

Now there is no one on this planet who can look at a women and describe her as a t*f. Yet, they are perfectly happy to walk into women's spaces and risk the literal hatred of t*fs, because they know that if a woman speaks out about it it is a hate crime.

🙌Julia Long🙌

Oh dear, somebody is not happy in Twitterland...

I think they will eventually get fed up with the 'walking on eggshells'.

I'm reminded of one of the best jokes this year from the Edinburgh Festival. yeah, I know it's Dave

I’ve got a new job collecting all the jumpers left in the park at the weekends, but it’s not easy. They keep moving the goalposts.

Good question, arranfan. Having watched all this stuff for a long time now, I'm interested in the fact that the aggression, the extreme hate and use of misogynistic abuse appear to be a deliberate tactic. I can see that the aim of that is to intimidate and frighten women into silence but it also, surely, has the effect of alienating people who are unsure where they stand. Maybe that doesn't matter to them as much as the silencing?

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Oh and Julia was brilliant. I've seen her present and chair a conference. She's as good in real like as she is on the radio.

Delighted to have the link to this. Thank you.

I sat through a panel talk of all women - plus the token transwoman - last week. The shocking rate of murder came up, that women are still dying at the hands of men and that it is not changing. The transwoman said "I disagree that things aren't changing, I'd say that things have radically improved in the last five years"

Yes, love, things have improved for you and your community. You are a 6' cubed hulking great lump of a person. No one's going to strangle you.

Am seething about it. Am going to have to email the transwoman and point out that she needs to check her privilege.

"Report the stupid bitch for hate crime." Have these people got no sense of irony?

If misogyny were a hate crime, I wonder how they'd express themselves if they're currently entirely satisfied with the reasonableness of their current discourse in very public social media?

Tweet the Merseyside Mayor and Labour peer, ask them who needs reporting to the police.

That tweet, though DJLippy - "Report the stupid bitch for hate crime." Have these people got no sense of irony?

The care worker was a man. I've had experience with this regarding male workers looking after an elderly senile woman (who had other health problems as well) whose main carers specifically asked for no male to partake in intimate care. He didn't last long, despite it being a husband and wife team. The woman in question became very distressed and it exacerbated and already touch and go problem for her.

Julia is so likeable, professional and articulate. Please do more.

Hearing a non woke presenter who encouraged the debate and did not fawn over the TRA made such a difference.

TRAs have had the advantage of sycophantic presenters in many an interview.

I may have to keep this interview for those days when the Twitter trolls are testing my patience.

The TRA argument is a house of cards.

I thank StickerWoman for bringing this out. It made the police look daft too, so perhaps the mayor and co will think twice now.

More acts of rebellion like Stickerwoman may just push this madness into living rooms everywhere.

Julia was fabulous 👏

One of my favourite bits was when she said "I'm a lesbian"...😂

The TRA strategy to define "different types" of women is so disingenuous and insulting.

I'm not a sub category of my own sex and neither is any other woman because of their ethnicity, sexual orientation, fertility, levels of anger (FFS) or any other reason.

The care worker got my goat by missing the point that if self id becomes law, the ability to insist on same sex care becomes impossible because legally that care worker is whatever sex they say they are - ergo they could not be replaced in the circumstances they described.

As for the "happy to let people live their lives" caller - all well and good when it's not infringing on the rights of others. Take smoking as an example - I'm happy to defend a persons right to smoke, but quite rightly we have legislation that limits smoking in public spaces because it infringes the rights of non smokers to enjoy a clean air environment.

I don't care how a person wants to identify and dress on a day to day basis but I don't believe that their choices should run roughshod over my sex based protections and ability to compete equitably in sports.

I really hope that more programs like this will get the message out - the arguments for self id are so weak and the negative impacts so strong - that when discussed openly people should be baffled as why there is a need to review this legislation at all (other than to actually tighten sex based rights).

What's not to love about Julia Long?!

She should be the number one go to woman to represent our side of this movement. Charming, funny, accurate and NEVER capitulates. She's also exceptionally likeable and one of our greatest assets.

More of her on tv and radio please.

Julia, you smashed it, thank you

Thanks to PP for posting that video of Julia, who is incredible.

I was actually chuckling throughout when the TRA fumbled their lines.

Nick was having none of it.

Julia shoe-horned some key points into this. Nobody spoke over her (unlike the biased Genderquake debate) and, hearing this on the radio makes the absurdities clearer.

My favourite bits were when Julia pointed out she is a lesbian and when Nick 'misgendered' (in TRAs' eyes) the TRA and you hear a very quiet 'she' spoken afterwards. Even Nick picked up the 'angry' women line.

This TRA showed themselves up a treat. Julia was magnificent.

I also love Graham Lineham. They are seriously gunning for him today and he's enjoying the sport.

Been lurking for ages and just joined MN to say bloody well done, Julia. I'm so glad this is getting out there to the wider public at last.

LoafEater, I think you are right about the majority having not given this any thought at all.

One thing that struck me about the interview - and the comments even from the interviewer about "ah yes, hadn't thought of that" - is how few people (men particularly) understand WHY we have sex-segregated spaces in the first place and therefore why it's an issue.

Handy that she's retweeted the relevant link to the interview though....

I hope LBC's inbox is ready for the onslaught.
I can practically hear the hatred dripping off this tweet.
Definite ratcheting up of the anger on the Twitter sphere past few weeks.

happydappy2 wrote - "The only people who can become women are girls."

I think this is what Simone de Beauvoir was referring to in her well-known statement: "One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman."

(It is from her book "The Second Sex" published in 1949, long before transgender ideology on the Internet started.)

I think it is clear that De Beauvoir meant:
A girl (human female child) becomes a woman (human female adult) by naturally maturing biologically AND experiencing the expectations that society has for female people.

De Beauvoir did NOT mean:
"A male person is not born, but rather becomes, a woman." (which is the spin that many transactivists put on the quotation).

And a Brava from me Julia! brilliant just brilliant!