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Debate: Steven Crowder v transactivist Julie Rei Goldstein

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Ereshkigal · 20/08/2018 21:29

This is a really good watch. Crowder really knows his stuff. They debate the science on trans suicide, puberty blockers, desistance and trans brains. I have to comment that I have debated with Julie Rei as have other women on Twitter and JRG was a lot more polite and reasonable with Crowder.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=CO3utRT3Hwk

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Ereshkigal · 23/08/2018 00:03

Indeed!

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heresyandwitchcraft · 22/08/2018 23:14

You can say a great many things about Crowder, but you cannot accuse the man of showing up to a debate unprepared.

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Ereshkigal · 22/08/2018 22:54

I'm sure I disagree with him on probably everything else but he's totally on point on this.

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Ereshkigal · 22/08/2018 22:52

Whether or not he is honest he's definitely super sharp.

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FloralBunting · 22/08/2018 20:43

Ah, yeah, but one of the Hitchens is a Christian himself, so there's that...Smile

speakingwoman · 22/08/2018 20:40

He’s a Christian? Gosh, he talks like Hitchens or Dawkins....

FloralBunting · 22/08/2018 19:40

I'm sure it's my naiveté showing here (that's not a snide comment) but my own understanding of Christianity, of which Crowder claims to be a part, is that honesty is fairly important.

But even as I'm writing that, I'm keenly aware of so, so, SO many Christians who don't live up to the billing, so yeah, you're probably right to put a question mark there.

speakingwoman · 22/08/2018 17:40

He’s clever. I don’t know if he’s honest.

FloralBunting · 21/08/2018 16:43

I don't agree with Crowder on some things, but he's an honest bod who employs a reasonable amount of critical thinking skills and occasionally tickles the funny bone in amongst the fratboy exuberance.

And as is so ably pointed out by others, it's possible for two people with differing views to agree on basic physical realities like the blue appearance of the sky, because the sky is, in fact, blue.

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Ereshkigal · 21/08/2018 14:03

The thing I liked most was how scornful he was about most trans lobby data due to it being commissioned by organisations with a vested interest and being based on polls, questionnaires and interviews.

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R0wantrees · 21/08/2018 11:32

Its extraordinary isn't it? Aside from which the claim to police and the mayor was hate crime.

I have seen someone suggesting environmental pollution and enquiring as to the nature of the glue etc used on the stickers put on the statues at Crosby beach though! Hmm

YesSirCowBoy · 21/08/2018 11:16

Calling James Intellectual dishonest, wow!

speakingwoman · 21/08/2018 09:21

There are really nasty comments too. You never see that sort of thing here....

MrGHardy · 20/08/2018 23:32

From a guy who calls himself "Steel": "I mean...I was supposed to wait till 21 to have a beer but I should've been allowed make the life altering decision to stop puberty as a child?"

Plenty of people do get it.

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Ereshkigal · 20/08/2018 22:22

Agree speaking.

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speakingwoman · 20/08/2018 22:02

He is pro life and no feminist. But very smart.

BraveAndStunning · 20/08/2018 21:37

OOOO. Wonder why it's not out as a podcast yet. Will hold off and can hopefully listen in the gym

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