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There is a poster popping up around bromley

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 17/08/2018 11:57

I would like to post a copy of it here does anybody know how?

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 19/08/2018 20:27

Have put link on local. Am going to put something together for aibu

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LockedOutOfMN · 19/08/2018 20:27

Thanks for notifying us about this, OP. Certainly we need to raise awareness and I would not be surprised if there are others in and around Bromley who are not happy with the local Lib Dems' reaction to the poster.

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 19/08/2018 20:21

Might put it on the local page- just add it as a link?

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 19/08/2018 19:00

We can only do what we can. No one person can change the world but if we all do our bit we can make a difference.

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has - Margaret Mead

If you're interested there are plenty of resources in the feminist section here. You can write to your MP, all sorts of actions are detailed there.

I talk to people whenever I get the chance, personally. Most people still think transwomen are the old school transsexuals - essentially gay men who have had all the surgery. When I explain that 80-85% of those currently under the Stonewall umbrella have a penis and most are attracted to women you can see their minds reassessing almost as you speak.

As I've always been an LGB ally people don't assume I've suddenly become some sort of bigot. Indeed I'm all for trans rights. They should be free to present and call themselves whatever they want. But that doesn't mean males are entitled to access women only spaces.

I just thought this thread posted elsewhere might get the attention of Mumsnetters who live in or near Bromley.

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 19/08/2018 17:59

I’m not a member but what about local WI meetings would they take kindly to chatting about this kind of thing- that might be a god way to get into groups of women that already assemble who would spread it about from an acceptably old fashioned community. Or maybe not I don’t have any experience with them as a group

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 19/08/2018 17:34

So- what’s the best way to get the facts out there fast without just getting shut down/ bricks trough windows/called transphobic.

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 19/08/2018 16:00

Someone said to me that this will probably all just “blow over “ and. It to worry about it all. But I have the feeling if we all do that then we won’t have anywhere left of our own outside our own homes.

I think you're right. Most people - both men and women - have absolutely no idea what's being asked for and how close men who identify as women are to achieving it. Women who identify as men aren't demanding anything much. Funny that.

When I gave my DBs a brief outline a month or two back I said I thought only one person in a hundred knew about the trans agenda. DB1 said it was more like one in a thousand.

He knew about it because he's very interested in sport. Mad on it. He coaches kids. And he could name the man who is currently the Canadian women's cycling champion. It outraged him.

Men can already compete against women in this Olympics, FFS. And that's just sport. People really don't have the faintest idea how far it's all gone.

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 19/08/2018 11:29

Lots of people I know have started to mention bits and bobs about all this. Someone said to me that this will probably all just “blow over “ and. It to worry about it all. But I have the feeling if we all do that then we won’t have anywhere left of our own outside our own homes.

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Datun · 19/08/2018 11:28

OP, the lib dems public stance on this has not exactly been covering them in glory.

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 19/08/2018 11:26

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 19/08/2018 11:25

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 19/08/2018 10:27

If you're feeling brave, OP, perhaps post again on a higher traffic area? Because I'd be surprised if most women know what changes in the law are being discussed - now - even on MN.

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 19/08/2018 10:23

Thanks very much will read today.

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Datun · 19/08/2018 10:07

OP, try this thread. It's a bit of background.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 19/08/2018 09:41

They are being painted as transphobic publicly on fb by the local Lib Dem’s. Perhaps you could consider a follow up poster.

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GirlDownUnder · 19/08/2018 01:50

@fidgetspinner555 your posters are working

this thread

GirlDownUnder · 19/08/2018 01:31

That poster was started here in FWR, I’m trying to find the link...

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 18/08/2018 22:57

Thanks very much for your messages. I had read the fund raising info for Jessica James and it all seemed like logic to me. The poster was in Bromley Kent. I’m not sure where abouts, but they said there had been a few around town. I wish I had screen shot my fb conversation now.

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MrsFogi · 18/08/2018 22:33

Out of interest OP where was the poster?

Rebecca36 · 18/08/2018 22:26

A very good message on that poster. I live in that area but haven't seen any yet.

Crwban · 18/08/2018 22:24

OP, you've done nothing wrong. You've listened to your instincts and your instincts are correct. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Keep reading. Follow any link associated with this board on this forum. Step away for a while each time you've read some literature - take a cup of tea/glass of wine and think about what you've read. If you're not happy with what's said on here - ask us. Challenge us. Open dialogue. There are so many wise MN'ers willing to talk. If there are abbreviations or acronyms that confuse you, ask and someone here shall answer.

We need people to exercise logic and intellect about this topic. Women's Rights are in danger and no one here or any other feminist forum will threaten you with abuse and violence if you challenge our thinking. This is not always
The case with other forms of
Social Media.

Keep reading. Keep questioning.

CholloDeNombre · 18/08/2018 21:59

Ah op you unknowingly poked a bear there. But you aren't transphobic, just a concerned female. Most of us are, when we learn the truth of self ID. Do keep reading.Thanks

MrsFogi · 18/08/2018 21:40

Bad luck @Carrotsandcauliflower you have come across a topic that women are not allowed to discuss freely event though it is their rights that are in jeopardy here. The best place to start reading about this is on Fair Play for Women once you've spent 15 minutes reading you can then make up your own mind about whether or not you consider that any women asking questions about this is transphobic.

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 18/08/2018 21:33

In the end I deleted my original comment and so the whole conversation. Because basically I’d been left looking like I’d made some horrible comments ( which couldn’t be seen as they had hidden them.) when I hadn’t. What has freaked me out is-
1: now I feel like I don’t know what is the right way to think about this- is even having the idea that I/others may feel unsafe/vunerable from sharing our spaces infact transphobic in itself??
2: is this person just shutting down my question/viewpoints to further their own cause at the cost of mine?
3: that I actually felt a bit horrified worried upset that I was painted in a bad light by this person.
Sorry if I’m going on a bit.

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Carrrotsandcauliflower · 18/08/2018 21:17

Headline bit saying “Women” was in blue as were the twitter tag things at the bottom, test in black like old style typewriter typeface.

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