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I had an interesting discussion with a MRA woman today

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IAmNotAntiWomen · 16/08/2018 13:46

This woman did not identify as a MRA, she is very content to disregard the rights, privacy, safety and dignity of women to please men.

I was offered a woman only deal on gym membership. I asked if it was biological woman only, she was delighted with herself and said we include all genders of women. She was shocked that I would not find this fantastic news. She refused to accept single sex exemptions in the EA 2010 existed or that you can't ask for a GRC, she was under the impression all Transwomen have had an operation to remove the penis and talked over me when I explained facts, she did not want to know.

I find it interesting that women will just shut down, its like talking to someone who has been a hypnotised or is disassoiated.

Our message is not getting through.

How can we get the truth out there?

OP posts:
IAmNotAntiWoman · 17/08/2018 20:33

I do not want to shower or change next to males.

IAmNotAntiWoman · 17/08/2018 20:32

Listen I don't mind exercising next to Transwomen be they a fetishism AGP type or a Gender Dysphoria type, I exercise next to men and I don't know the spectrum of their lifestyle or issues, it is none of my business and I don't care.

I do want to get naked in a shower and change in front of someone who has a natal male / XY chromosome body and I don't fucking have to, I either vote with my feet by not joining or inform the gym about using single sex exemptions. If that woke woman yesterday wants to strip in mixed sex spaces be my guest, don't gaslight me and expect me to do the same.

rainbowsandsmiles · 17/08/2018 20:30

Ookay. Nice to see you have such reasoning. As you were then.

TerfsUp · 17/08/2018 20:20
Confused

Fuck that, too.

rainbowsandsmiles · 17/08/2018 20:12

What is MRA.

mens rights activists I think.

Vicky1990 · 17/08/2018 20:10

What is MRA.

rainbowsandsmiles · 17/08/2018 20:01

Fuck that noise

Confused
TerfsUp · 17/08/2018 18:50

As that's discrimination which is kind of the very definition of transphobia.

Fuck that noise.

TerfsUp · 17/08/2018 18:49

all genders of women

Dear lord.

GeorgeFayne · 17/08/2018 16:10

We need to be gardeners. Plant little seeds here and there. It's very possible that she is mulling over what you said, perhaps even looking up information to see if it's true that most transwomen retain their male genitalia. If we are effective in our conversations, we might just see these little seeds sprouting and growing into a lovely fields of, oh, perhaps grass...otherwise known as, um, turf.

UpstartCrow · 17/08/2018 15:48

The actions of trans people are affecting women right now. This isn't some hypothetical loss of women's rights that might happen in the future, its already happening.
No one here is discriminating against trans people by fighting for women's rights. That's not how rights work.

Mumminmum · 17/08/2018 15:35

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FormerlyPickingOakum · 17/08/2018 15:35

Ahhh, you met a surrendered wife of the woke.

I love that phrase. Grin

CaitlynsCat · 17/08/2018 15:26

Is it legal to offer a woman only deal? I thought that was scrapped with car insurance.

rainbowsandsmiles · 17/08/2018 15:20

I asked if it was biological woman only, she was delighted with herself and said we include all genders of women. She was shocked that I would not find this fantastic news.

On being told that they include biological women and transwomen too, you told her you weren't happy with that and you'd rather they weren't included?
Is that right? If so, I can kind of see her point.
As that's discrimination which is kind of the very definition of transphobia.

MrGHardy · 17/08/2018 01:07

"she was delighted with herself and said we include all genders of women. She was shocked that I would not find this fantastic news"

Typical woke person. Excited she could show off how nice and progressive they are. Devastated when she learned her virtue signalling wasn't gonna get her cookies.

LighthouseSouth · 16/08/2018 21:40

OP "she was under the impression all Transwomen have had an operation to remove the penis and talked over me when I explained facts, she did not want to know."

hmm, had she just met you?

if it's new, it's so bonkers, coming from someone you've never met, you might just think they were bonkers and wrong about facts.

I've seen posters on here saying that they didn't understand what transgender meant and for a long time thought people were being very bizarre.

Charliethefeminist · 16/08/2018 18:30

What a great point. I am rehearsing it Grin

stillathing · 16/08/2018 16:05

all genders of woman.

i don't actually disagree with that, if taken literally.... i'd be tempted to say "you mean trans men, genderfluid and non binary women are included too? fantastic!" and wait for a response. *

*easy to say but i'm a great one for thinking of the clever comebacks several hours later

Charliethefeminist · 16/08/2018 15:47

I've come across all genders of women too. It's bananas.

Original poster
IAmNotAntiWomen · 16/08/2018 15:30

There is just no point talking to people like that , it's like communicating with C-3PO.

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Lottapianos · 16/08/2018 15:28

'You have to give them enough to go away and think about. They won't admit anything then and there, even to themselves'

Very true

'all genders of women'

Please give me strength. Please Hmm

TransplantsArePlants · 16/08/2018 15:09

Bitter

Me too. There are some I haven't got anywhere with. Others, though, have understood the concerns straight away. And I met an old acquaintance at a WPUK meeting, so that was nice.

Charliethefeminist · 16/08/2018 14:45

You have to give them enough to go away and think about. They won't admit anything then and there, even to themselves. A few questions on 'so how will I know if someone who looks like a man in the shower, is a man or a woman' or 'how do you stop men pretending to be women to get in the shower' and they bluster and smile but think about it afterwards.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 16/08/2018 14:22

That is the kind of response I've had from my female work colleagues. Cut me off, don't want to hear me out, I'm the one who's intolerant. And these are (what I thought were) intelligent, fair and decent people.