Sexual exploitation of young girls in Huddersfield - again?

A more recent thing is to give the girls spice to smoke, then dump them comatose somewhere.

Twice now but of course it's the girls taking drugs at fault.

I have witnessed it first hand as it happened to a friend of mine when we were teenagers. She was groomed by a group of men, and passed around their social circle
Me too, although I must admit it's only with hindsight that I recognised it, once I was a little older. This would have been in the late eighties/early nineties, and it was absolutely rife in the West Yorkshire town I grew up in. It mainly seemed to centre around taxi drivers, bus drivers etc who were around in the evenings due to their jobs. What made me the saddest was that these girls were all really vulnerable and really thought these guys cared about them and they were real boyfriends. The girls all ended up abused, discarded, and their lives changed forever. Many turned to drugs and alcohol to cope. At least one I know of killed herself.
Makes me sick to the stomach that it has been prevalent for so long and nothing has changed.

abitcrapper sadly I think that often women involved in these things victim blame, as bad as men and sometimes worse.

In society in general the prevailing attitude towards teenage girls is really iffy - and women are in no way immune to it.

I have heard women that I know say awful things about girls, about rape cases in the news etc. I have also heard that women on juries are less likely to find men guilty of rape than men.

There are no easy answers to this - what is needed is for societies across the world to stop viewing girls as objects and for men to respect the fact that they are children and therefore totally off limits.

Awful, but this stuff doesn't surprise me anymore, which scares me a bit. I should be very shocked that a group of 30 men joined forces and molested young girls, but we hear of it so much it just doesn't shock anymore.

oh look - an elephant.

I'll read that later LangCleg. cheers

"we raise our girls to want sex". There is an element of truth in this. Just look at advertising and how sexy women sell anything that is aspirational. Sexy music videos. Our whole culture is around sex and women being "up for it".

Here's the inimitable Lisa Muggeridge on the social work/intervention environment for these girls:

idgeofreason.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/shocking-gang-rape-liverpool-bradford-wherever-read-our-coverage-for-details/

idgeofreason.wordpress.com/2017/07/04/how-to-demonstrate-the-indifference-to-street-grooming-is-not-a-race-issue/

Note that, aside from institutional misogyny, a lot of this "she was there of her own free will" is about avoiding placements that could cost tens of thousands of pounds - and that those placements are only needed in the first place because of penny pinching over early intervention work.

30 rapers is a lot for a small town like Huddersfield.
No, it's not. You could find that in one street.
The belief is that working class white girls are 'for' abuse - "their parents bring them up to it", I've been told. We raise our girls to want sex. "All white girls are players" is another belief.

I hate the whole culture of under age "consent" that completely over looks grooming/ privilege / self esteem issues / societal pressures to be "sexy and attractions". Ugh, just ugh.

When will this stop?!

Let me guess - are these multi agency case conferences mainly populated by men? And the social workers flagging up the concerns are women?
I hate to say it, but I used to work in secondary schools, and frequently the male SLT would minimise any welfare concerns that female staff would raise...

I thought social workers were "the authorities"! Who is overruling them to say it's not a concern?!

Multi-agency case conferences.

It's endemic in this country. These cases just about scrape the surface.

Perhaps the police and the courts?

I thought social workers were "the authorities"! Who is overruling them to say it's not a concern?!

Why isn't there an outcry and some kind of national inquiry into why this behaviour from men towards vulnerable girls/women is so widespread? It's an epidemic and thousands of girls and women are being traumatised and suffering as a result.

(I know what the answer is to this, but today I am beyond angry about the treatment of girls/women by men)

A very good friend of mine used to work in children’s homes and has spent thousands of soul destroying hours retrieving children from houses and situations like this, our in the middle of the night to pick up kids who have been dumped places, and battling authorities who insist the girls are there of their own free will - 13 year olds.

I have a cousin recently retired from social work who says exactly the same thing.

At least now, we are actually recognising this as a crime. Because it's going on at industrial rates.

It's happening Every. Single. Night.

I live close to Rotherham, across from me is an industrial estate and a few discrete car parks.
It has always been a 'beat' for sex workers but the last 20 years has been a hot spot for 'chilling' in cars with girls.

There is an occasional patrol, on the whole it's always happening, they don't stop.

This comes as no surprise, sadly. How certain people can be outraged by this then see no problem with males freely accessing female spaces makes me want to scream and weep in equal measures.

Males are a danger to females, and the more vulnerable the female is (via age or other circumstances) the more danger she is at risk of. There will always be males who see opportunities to sexually harm females and use those opportunities.

Sorry to hear about your young relative Hoppinggreen.

That's awful, Hopping.

We need to keep talking about these men. I am quite sure these crimes are still going on up and down the country. It's a shame 'intersectional' feminists aren't as passionate about this cause as other ones.

This is my home town and unfortunately a distant family member had this happen to her
She has SN and was groomed and then raped - sadly she refused to believe she wasn’t raped as the man involved was her “boyfriend who loved her” and took her shopping to Top Shop for a new outfit afterwards.
It only came to light because she was waiting for a bus a few days later and the man pulled up in his car with a load of his friends nd asked her to get in. Luckily a lady at the bus stop realised something wasnt right and prevented her from getting in the car. The men got out and started being aggressive so another lady began to film them so they drove off and the 2 ladies insisted on calling the girls Mum who called the police
The Police were very good actually and said that they knew the men and would be pushing for rape as the girl wasn’t capable of consent. However CPS refused as she wouldn’t cooperate and kept insisting the man was her boyfriend and was actually Italian not Asian at all. I understand that the men were warned off by The Police though
The girl concerned is from a nice MC family, although due to her SN she doesn’t necessarily present as such so would have seemed vulnerable ( which she is) and I wonder how good the police would have been if she was from a children’s home or similar
Gangs of men like this have been part of our Town and the next one over for many many years, they were around when I was a teen and we knew to avoid them but they usually have money and flash cars and I can see how some girls would be impressed. My DD is 13 and it’s something I’m very very aware of when she’s in Town without me. There are areas she isn’t allowed to go sadly

I'm sure "lessons will be learned" and we'll have a whole load of new cases in the papers in a couple of years.

Bottom line is it's considered fairly normal even in our society for men to be interested in girls once their bodies start changing,
And too many men are prepared to act on it.

The nature of these gangs - the grooming, the scale, the passing around, the violence is a thing all to itself though and that this was not tackled for fear of racism is just fucking appalling. That was enhanced by the fact that very few people were interested- seeing these girls as "off the rails" etc. It is misogyny that assumes adult motivations and decision making to female children in these circs. What makes me angry is when racist people suddenly have a massive concern for girls safety and happiness, while simultaneously turning a blind eye when it's one of "them" who's up to no good with underage girls.

Girls, not 'young girls'.
Sickening.

IME not one!