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Sexual exploitation of young girls in Huddersfield - again?

163 replies

Bowlofbabelfish · 15/08/2018 10:24

Just seen this story. Is this one of the three linked trials that are ongoing or is it an entirely new investigation that’s now coming to court?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6062349/Thirty-men-woman-charged-sexual-exploitation-girls-young-12.html

I suspect we will see the usual rhetoric about working class girls being worth nothing in the eyes of the law.

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frogface69 · 16/08/2018 00:41

I live near Dewsbury. What goes on here is far worse than you can imagine. I could take you right now to the car park where girls are exchanged. Everyone knows. People are frightened to really speak up. It is all so terrible here.

makingmiracles · 16/08/2018 00:18

I think it’s Bs not to be blunt and call it what it is for fear of rasism, predatory grooming by ethnic minority males. Yes occasionally white males are involved but on the whole it seems to be a massive problem with Asian and Pakistani men. Does anyone know if the Rotherham gang were British born or immigrants? I wonder what’s going so wrong in their home countries in terms of education and treatment of women generally that they feel it’s acceptable/normal to come here and behave like this?

therealposieparker · 15/08/2018 23:39

Racist and islamophobic accusations are the same a transphobic accusations. They seek to silence and deceive. We should be able to name this abuse.

therealposieparker · 15/08/2018 23:37

Adult human female I'm so sorry this happened to you ❤️❤️

Babycham1979 · 15/08/2018 23:35

Nick Griffin really is an odious little prick, but he actually was the first to identify this publically (along with his grubby little associates), and was duly sent to court as a result,

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/bnp-leader-walks-free-as-race-hate-prosecution-fails-6109957.html

A stopped clock is right twice a day. And the politically correct powers that be truly hate anyone who rocks the boat.

TheQueef · 15/08/2018 23:06

Sorry that that happened to you AHF Flowers

The street sex workers local to me are now run by Roma, the age and prices available now make you despair. They truly enjoy destroying women.

AdultHumanFemale · 15/08/2018 22:43

I was a victim of grooming and sexual predation at the hands of a grooming gang in my mid teens. Those men were Polish Roma gypsies, old enough to be my dad. This took place in a capital city of another European country known for its 'right-on' ness, where I was at a residential school. Those men were small time dealers of drugs and stolen goods and through my involvement with them I became implicated in this business and was left vulnerable to predation by men of a range of nationalities, by means of trade; the thing they had in common was that they were deeply misogynistic men living on the margins of society with little interest in integrating with or contributing to the society of their chosen country of residence. Nobody thought to / dared to question what was going on with me; not my school, nor GP or obs/gyn clinic and other services which I came into contact with as a result of it. I was blamed at worst and at best thought to be 'a bit of a wild child'. Like the other girls I came into contact with, I thought one of those men was my 'boyfriend', and that I was special. I blanked those years out for decades, and it is only since the recent stories coming out of Rotherham etc that I have been able to put a name to what happened to me.
I am not sure what point I am making, apart from the fact that it is heartbreaking that this is happening to girls all over the place, girls who have no way of naming it, or of recognising it for what it is.

midgesummer · 15/08/2018 22:42

I remember going to an introductory meeting about this issue almost 20 years ago in a close by town, it was an exceedingly well attended multi disciplinary meeting. No follow up meetings were ever held, this was said to be because the council was concerned about inflaming racial tensions. There is a significant racial element to this type of sexual abuse, this isn't the only sexual abuse that will be present in these communities and sexual abuse occurs in all communities in different forms. The unchecked nature of this abuse was a toxic mix of unvalued and hard to care for dc and institutional concerns about being thought racist.

Bespin · 15/08/2018 22:26

one of the issues that is often over looked is that some of these young woman continue to be exploited into adulthood and at this point it becomes a lot harder to prevent and to convict as the victim will often side with the group who have become there support network and unless services can provide that support then it is hard to get them away from these gangs at this point

powershowerforanhour · 15/08/2018 22:23

Disappointing that the BBC headline contains the phrase "child sex". There is no such thing as "child sex" or "grooming girls for sex". It's child rape. The BBC of all people should know that, given their disgraceful history in this area.

TheQueef · 15/08/2018 22:18

There is no support. The wreckage the victims are left with is too big for any agency to commit to.
Often the victims have a child as a product of grooming.
Neither community wants them. No one, the stigma or blame is a life sentence for these women.

Bespin · 15/08/2018 22:11

therealposieparker

it's a shame for these victims that there are little to no services out there that can support them and maybe if we focused on that and allowing them to get the support they need when there whole world as been built around these gangs then we may have a chance of stopping them and arresting them.

therealposieparker · 15/08/2018 22:07

I'm not playing games. I'm reading a thread. This blindness is one of the reasons these girls were unheard. It's a shame for the victims these perpetrators aren't white privileged fuckers as there would be less hand wringing.

Bespin · 15/08/2018 22:03

therealposieparker

I'm not in the mood for games around this I have spend the day dealing with the impact of this very thing I would suggest that we support the victims of these crimes to be in a position where they are supported to be able to bring the accused to justice. this is a missivly. complex issue and simply stating its one group misrepresents it. this is a nation wide issue with gangs of men from diffent ethnic backgrounds who use there positions of power.

therealposieparker · 15/08/2018 21:57

So we should focus on the victims not the perpetrators in these specific crimes? But in all others not victim blame?

Bespin · 15/08/2018 21:55

therealposieparker

because that is not the whole picture of this type of crime and that is not the only profile of the men thst carry this out. to simply state that its this group minimises this problem which is a wider issues around the exploration and vunrable young woman.

therealposieparker · 15/08/2018 21:50

87% of all men known in these gangs are Pakistani Muslim. Ask the women in Pakistan if they are surprised. Seriously. What is wrong with saying this?

Bespin · 15/08/2018 21:47

also this is not only immigrants or other ethnic minority groups, there are many different groups of men that pray on vunrability young woman. especially with mental health and learning disabilities.

therealposieparker · 15/08/2018 21:45

Don't mention that they're Muslim or immigrants. #bigots

Ereshkigal · 15/08/2018 21:44

The common factor is men in positions of power able to form closed groups not subject to scrutiny

YY.

Bespin · 15/08/2018 21:43

unfortunately none of this as gone away with a few trials and this is very much still an ongoing issue with gangs in this area and other surrounding areas

Vicky1990 · 15/08/2018 21:43

Why is no one mentioning these men are mostly immigrants.

therealposieparker · 15/08/2018 21:42

I can't believe how little coverage this vile woman got in the press

Ereshkigal · 15/08/2018 21:41

Which I post because generally violent misogynists don't change their spots and they abuse women closer to home as well.

Ereshkigal · 15/08/2018 21:40

What you tend to find is these groomers are chain-migration husbands: a relative born in Pakistan who is married to a family member for visa purposes and who exists in a kind of cultural twilight zone of late night taxi and take away work with other chain migration husbands from Pakistan, hearing a very skewed perspective of British culture.

Quite possibly here because of a scenario like this:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/forced-marriage-visas-for-men-who-force-teenagers-into-marriage-f82wkldp3