Sexual exploitation of young girls in Huddersfield - again?

I agree that many far right activists have a racist political agenda. But that's not the issue. The problem occurs when they are the only people to say anything at all.

Saying the right thing for the wrong reason, or for the wrong agenda, is NOT a crime!

Nick griffin WAS taken to court for ‘inciting racial hatred’ for saying exactly that.

Nobody has been taken to court for saying it’s Asian men mostly doing this. People have been charged with contempt of court for not obeying a judges instructions
I completely support freedom of speech for all ( even vile racists) but I don’t buy into the “they are standing up for these girls “ bollocks
They have a racist political agenda and I doubt they give a shit how many girls are being abused. They don’t seem concerned about white paedophiles.
I am not afraid being accused of racism for telling the truth, see my earlier posts but I will not applaud evil men just because they happen to agree with most decent people on ONE issue

I agree. Free speech isn't just for the people one agrees with.

As for applauding the likes of Nick Griffin or Tommy Robinson - just no!
What do you mean ‘just no’
I mean, I don’t think anyone’s ‘applauding them’, just pointing out it’s disgusting for them to be taken for court for saying these Asian grooming gangs are targeting whites girls, they are!
That’s not a crime, regardless of how much you dislike them or what they stand for. It’s very, very dangerous ground to try and start censoring people in that way. It might suit you while it’s people you disagree with, but set that precedent in motion, and it could be you in prison next for saying things against the ‘status quo’.
Big brother is watching, we should NOT accept it!

It's the fault of the left that in a bid to be liberal we allow the right to lead on these matters. Whether it's opposing grooming gangs and Sharia courts, transgenderism or paedophiles more generally. It's not always good to be kind and accepting when it comes to things that are bad.

I agree. And it was a factor in Rotherham and Rochdale. The independent report into Rotherham council found that there was a culture of turning a blind eye partially because of the culture/race/ethnicity issues. It's not a right wing myth.

I listened to a interview with the woman who exposed the issue in Rotherham.
She didn’t believe that the lack of police action was due to the men’s ethnicity, plenty of Asian men are arrested every day in Huddersfield. If you read the local papers court reports around 70% of the names seem to be of Pakistani origin ( mostly traffic offences)
She thought it was more about the girls themselves being seen as “trouble” and worthless as they were from difficult backgrounds
If the Police tried to remove a girl they would get told to F off by the girls and told they were there by choice so the only option was to physically remove them but then they would usually go back anyway so we’re viewed as complicit and not worth “saving”
I also think it’s important to distinguish between religion and culture
There is nothing in Islam that allows or encourages this sort of behaviour (despite the islamsphobes reference to one instance of Mohammed having a young wife in The Quran, which is open to interpretation anyway). It’s cultural, as someone else pointed out most of these men were brought here from villages in rural Pakistan to marry a British born girls and they have a very negative view of British culture and especially young girls. It’s deeply ingrained that women are possessions or resources to be used at will and they have the opportunities to do just that here.
As for applauding the likes of Nick Griffin or Tommy Robinson - just no!

Having said that at least there are a spate of trials now.

Yes and while people in authority have been doing contortions "exploring the wider issues" crimes have been ignored.

I live near Dewsbury. What goes on here is far worse than you can imagine. I could take you right now to the car park where girls are exchanged. Everyone knows.

I live in Huddersfield too, but I didn't know, nor did anyone I know!
We were all oblivious.
I guess it depends on the area or circles you socialise in.

As "holding ones nose awful" as this is the people shouting loudest about PIE in the 80s (?) were the National Front. It's the fault of the left that in a bid to be liberal we allow the right to lead on these matters. Whether it's opposing grooming gangs and Sharia courts, transgenderism or paedophiles more generally. It's not always good to be kind and accepting when it comes to things that are bad.

SPOFS indeed

Yikes - so many typos
*sang = should
Eve = even
Drop - drap

The other elephant in the room here that sang be mentioned us the children act and the lack of authority that workers and the law have in actually being able to remove girls from this. I have a little (not much) experience in this area and what it comes down to is .... you can’t imprision teenagers eve if they are only 12/13. It’s generally ‘vulnerable’ girls with poor family relationships, from poorer backgrounds and / or in care or on child protection plans from inadequate parenting. By the time professionals are involved, the girls are already hooked either in drugs/alcohol or on the ‘glamour’ of having a rich boyfriend. That’s very hard to to fight when you have both hands tied behind your back - parents can’t physically restrain the girls from leaving the house; social workers and the police can’t lock away and it’s very difficult to prosecute the men when their victims will swear that nothing has happened. It’s bloody hard. Early education is the key I think - getting this message into school at a very early age and continually reinforcing it but it’s somewhat thwarted by the constant reinforcement from music/film/TV/celebrity that the only interesting women are those who dress in next to nothing and drop themselves across men. That’s what we are teaching girls to aspire to so no wonder it gets twisted by these men.

In Rotherham, at least two councillors and at least one police officer are believed to have raped girls involved in the gang abuse - there's three reasons why no-one did anything

to anyone affected by this

How the fuck can you blame Islam when sex outside marriage is forbidden?

Because it doesn't "count" when it's sex with a white, non-Muslim girl

Why are Nick Griffin and Tommy Robinson the only high-profile people speaking out against this?

I am appalled by this, but I don't want either of these pricks as my spokesman!

Incidentally, isn't it odd that all of the areas with grooming gangs are Labour strongholds? #labourlosingwomen

I haven't read all of the PPs but thought I'd come on to say I'm from Huddersfield and know several of the men named. It is rife. Many of my friends and I were "passed around" so to speak as 13/14/15 year olds. I'm alright luckily but several of my friends were very badly affected by it emotionally.

Shurrup deleting that, really?

Leaving the Roma comment up though?

@frogface69 we are in the same area. Can you pm me re your known locations please? I can help get resources there

@powershowerforanhour yes! The media language serves to reinforce the salacious nature of the language. It's like fucking kiddie porn - it gives it a degree of validity. It boils my piss!

Although I disagree that they’d be ‘less’ handwringing of it were white men doing it - look at how the protected the ‘paedo-presenters of the BBC - but only if it were to white working class girls.
If white men were particularly targeting minority girls to the extent that happens in these towns, then I do genuinely think it would be a different story - but not because they give a shit about the girls though, but so that they can get their right- on points

They literally took nick griffin to court for saying that Asian gangs were grooming white girls. That’s scary shit.
If only they took the groomers to court so quickly.
As a pp said, a stopped clock is right twice a day, I don’t agree with nick griffin about most things, but I agreed with this and found it disgusting they tried to have him prosecuted. Why? What’s their agenda?