America: Parents make violent threats/comments about trans teen

It goes without saying (or it should) that everyone should be free to live without the threat of abuse or violence whoever they are and I (and all the people I know on this board) would always condemn violence and violent abuse like this towards anyone but particularly a child.

Regardless of what I believe about TWAW or trans ideology as a whole I do not think it is acceptable to threaten or hurt people. I don't believe in targeting anyone for their differences (including discrimination in getting jobs, housing, education, healthcare services). Just because I am pro-women and in favour of women only spaces and am sceptical about the idea of 'gender' as a concept - I believe we should do away with it completely - doesn't mean I wish harm or hurt on anyone. Adults on both sides of the situation in the OP are in the wrong, certainly not the child themselves.

So, an isolated incident in a foreign country is the responsibility of those who post on this board.

Idiocy.

Ugh, all but one of those names is male. Plus, apparently, all bar one commenter isn't even part of that school district. They are outside it, demonstrating a mob mentality.

Disgusting individuals. I outright condemn men who threaten, or pose a threat to, children.

I feel very sorry for the district supervisor who is floundering amidst it all and blaming lack of guidance.

Which is why this conversation needs to happen. In public, in the open, without delay.

Beene, the superintendent, told KFOR he has received more than 300 emails about the incident. He stressed that the school district aims to be accepting of “all populations,” but said he would be open to additional training regarding the LGBTQ community.

“I need education. We all need to be educated,” Beene said. “It’s certainly something that people didn’t deal with 20, 30 years ago.”

Completely agree. #YesDebate

Awful for the child in question, but the school should know their population and have carried out a thorough risk assessment before putting dozens of girls privacy and dignity at risk vs validation of an identity of one male born child who has now been subjected to awful abuse. In schools there should be third spaces as this acknowledged the trans child right to be different without colluding in the notion that they have actually changed sex or that individual identity overrides the collective material reality of biological sex

That 'Girl from Mars' account is just

So they have screen shotted the title and then just totally misinterpreted what has been said on the thread? 😂

To be fair, that does seem to be the level of debate on Twitter these days. Just make shit up.

PeakPants

True

twitter.com/menysnoweballes/status/1029633736114094080?s=21

Can’t read the original tweet because I am blocked despite never engaging in any GC debate on twitter. But just wanted to say to Dr Rachel Moss that yes, sadly it is a lot more likely that the kid in question is a serial killer in the making than that he is actually a girl because the latter is utterly impossible.
Obviously the abuse is totally uncalled for but it’s also unhelpful when an academic with a PhD pretends that it’s possible to change sex.

FruitOnAPlatter

Yes, it comes to something when we are invited to condemn Cleetus from Buttsville

Get this into your thick skulls TRAs: 'WE aren't Steve Bannon'

That's horrific, the poor child. Children should not be used as pawns in the TRAs game.

The Washington Post article suggests that there may have been some doctoring of what went on on FB going on (but I can't quite follow what they mean).

Why members of a UK feminism board should be told to talk about it is a little beyond me.

Sound a touch like "so when are you Muslims going to condemn terrorism!!!!", doesn't it

and even that's not a fair comparison - it's 'why aren't you UK feminists condemning those homophobic violent US men' (check the screengrabs - it's almost entirely male - only a couple of ambiguous names)

ie, completely and utterly removed from our influence.

A load of men are yelling at each other, on opposing sides of an argument over women's spaces, and feminists are still getting the blame.

Men need to grow up and take responsibility for themselves, and not expect us to baby them by shielding them in our spaces, or being expected to tell them off for their appalling behaviour

There is a slightly different version in the Washington Post, including this little gem

www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/14/after-facebook-posts-threaten-12-year-old-transgender-girl-oklahoma-school-district-cancels-classes/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bb6a23e498dd

"Her daughter has been identifying as a girl for years and has not had any major problems with the district in the time since, Rose said. One issue did arise, however, when a student accused the girl of “peeping” under a bathroom stall, the mother said.

“My daughter leans very far forward to use the bathroom so I can understand why someone might see her leaning forward as ‘oh my gosh she’s trying to look under the stall,'” Rose told KXII".

This is really useful to know, thank you. If anyone wants a primer on their sly tactics this is a great example.

Eresh Lily Madigan tweets the 18 month old story then links to the petition but with no actual explanation about why the 2 things are in anyway linked.

The grim doctor does similar but screenshots someone who says, 'it was only a pellet gun.'

Obviously some kind of co-ordinated attack. I can just imagine the 'behind the scenes' planning discussion.

Very interesting despicable

What coincidence this is posted here. Overnight, TRA activists across twitter are highlighting the case of a 11 year old boy transitioning to become a girl, (reported by the Manc Evening News in Feb 2017) who was shot by a pellet gun at school, is suddenly being dragged up.

The intention seems to be 1. look for people who reference the tweet without condemnation of the event, screenshot it and call them evil.

1. Link the incident to why the strangely vague petition against conversion therapy and state that this is why it is needed. It's been used as an emotional manipulation to get people to sign the petition. No attempt to explain why the 2 things were linked. The MEN article already reports the child was supported by Stonewall and another charity that sounds like it would have been Mermaids.

Bullying happens every day in school for a multitude of reasons. I never cease to be horrified by the things my children tell me they have witnessed. It's a bit weird to be expected to call it out, since it's most people's default position to condemn bullying.

I think the construction here is that we're just as bad wanting privacy and dignity for girls as those parents are with their horrible threats to children. Quel surprise, oh look it's another day ending in Y.

Every single person on this thread has condemned the violent threats and abuse towards this child and any other trans person.

This is how disingenuous the Twitter take is from the usual suspects. It's not surprising they only show the title:

https://twitter.com/G1rlFromm_Mars/status/1029576078975819776?s=20

My personal main beef with the trans ideology is because I am against castration full stop and particularly the castration of children. What horrible, horrible people referring to a child like that.

This reminds me of Lucy Meadows, although fortunately with less tragic consequences. The parents in both cases should be ashamed. Wanting to retain and strengthen single-sex provisions does not justify threats to a child or hounding a qualified teacher out of their job. I wouldn't want those adults around any children, trans or otherwise.

Had you been paying attention, Op, you would know that we condemn threats of violence here nearly every day without being told to. Fancy that.

I invite my transactivist opposites to join me in condemning all threats of violence and acts of violence.

^ This

violence is wrong, safeguarding of all children is undermined by self ID.

^^ this.

All threats of violence are shocking and outrageous, and should be widely condemned.

Absolutely appalling behaviour by parents. Totally chilling and I really feel for the poor child at the centre of this terrible situation. It's really shocking.