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Calling all Scottish women

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howonearthdidwegethere · 14/08/2018 11:11

There is some new schools guidance coming down the line that contains deeply regressive and unscientific messages about gender identity. This time aimed specifically at primary school aged children as part of their relationship and sexual health education.

The 'highlights' are set out in this Twitter thread: twitter.com/Scottish_Women/status/1028744266498158594

You can view the full draft guidance here: rshp.scot/ (look at the drop down box entitled 'Levels').

Please consider writing to your kids' headteacher, parent council, local councillors, MSPs (remember you have one constituency MSP and several 'list' MSPs).

There are contact email addresses on the RSHP website too. Smile

The guidance is due to be used in schools next year.

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 16/08/2018 22:49

Definitely PTA, good thought!

WaddIelikeapenguin · 16/08/2018 22:45

I think it's worth checking with schools as well and registering disquiet
Yes plus PTA & school gate? Most people wont know.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 16/08/2018 22:33

Maggie Mellon has done some great work on named person, so glad she is on this. The guidelines for 8 year olds are possibly even more disturbing than the P1 ones which were reported one Scotsman etc. I think it's worth checking with schools as well and registering disquiet.

MarSeeAh · 16/08/2018 22:31

I live in East Ayrshire, and work in both East Ayrshire and East Renfrewshire.

Will risk my blood pressure and read the linked information now.

Hackedoffwoman · 16/08/2018 21:31

houseofsix You can start by contacting your MSP ( and those on the list) and raise your concerns. I find that a face to face works better than a letter or an email. There is a lot of info online that you can take with. Feel free to DM me

theOtherPamAyres · 16/08/2018 09:33

Maggie Mellon, former social worker and writer, based in Edinburgh

The Impact on Children etc ( a short news article, 22 July)

www.newsshopper.co.uk/opinion/16369924.Maggie_Mellon__The_impact_on_children_of_accepting__transgender__ideology/?ref=ar

HouseOfSix · 15/08/2018 22:46

I want to do something about this but don't know where to begin. Not sure how to make how I feel and all the things I'm worried about make sense on paper and not just sound like a sleep deprived rant (2.5yo and a newborn).

The thought of my little ones starting school in a few years is hard enough without worrying about crap like this.

SturdyEarmuffs · 15/08/2018 22:35

Thanks for this. 👍

BraveAndStunning · 15/08/2018 22:33

So according to their site:

Prestwick Acad
Stranraer Acad
Sexual Health, Ayrshire

Could be more, I prob only recognise the larger towns from the list

BraveAndStunning · 15/08/2018 22:27

Can check here but really need to contact school

www.lgbtyouth.org.uk/lgbt-charter/lgbt-charter-awardees/

CharlieWork · 15/08/2018 22:15

Which East Ayrshire schools are piloting this programme?

BraveAndStunning · 15/08/2018 22:05

In case you Scottish wimmin missed it....

sexnotgender · 15/08/2018 22:04

This is lunacy! Need to find out what my daughters schools stance is on this.

Theinconstantgardener · 15/08/2018 21:41

Very informative posts thank you. Its good to have a summary of the issues. Theres so much going on at the moment with this stuff. I have written to Education Scotland to raise my concern.

Hackedoffwoman · 15/08/2018 21:32

You would have thought they would have thought they would have learned from this;

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/news/horror-upon-horror-that-unfolded-in-worst-ever-abuse-trial-1-1037439/amp

BraveAndStunning · 15/08/2018 12:01

LGBT Youth Scotland have recruited about 20 schools in Scotland so far. The first primary school was Downfield Primary in Dundee, and the project was heavily supported by Gregor Murray, the SNP councillor who recently resigned having called the 8 Lesbians who carried a 'Lesbians are Female Homosexuals' sign at London Pride 'Vile Cunts'. Gregor Murray also was criticised for calling women 'roasters' and criticised by the former Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale as sexist.

This is Gregor Murray. I have avoided personal pronouns because I wish to follow Mumsnet's policy re 'misgendering. Gregor Murray self-describes as a 'non binary woman'

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/703892/childrens-convener-resigns-following-row-over-expletive-laden-social-media-outbursts/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

LGBT Youth Scotland are currently recruiting for project managers, youth digital officers and PR Managers.

www.lgbtyouth.org.uk/jobs/vacancies/

They received £900,000 in funding from the Scottish Government in 2017. They are intending to roll out their 'LGBT Schools Charter' further across Scotland. This programme HAS NOT been endorsed by the Scottish Government.

Of particular concern is the 'Supporting Transgender' document that they claimed had been endorsed by the Scottish Government, only to admit it was an 'error' some 8 months later. See link:

www.lgbtyouth.org.uk/media/1344/supporting-transgender-young-people.pdf

This document actively acts against standard safeguarding in advising that in the case of young people who have confided in teachers re gender identity issues, this information should not be given to parents.

It also advises that there is no need for parents to be aware when their child is sharing accommodation with children of the opposite sex, who have gender identity issues. It also supports the use of breast binders for female children with gender identity issues.

Please read this document. It is important that parents are aware what is being taught to their children

The LGBT Schools charter is a trojan horse for the wholescale adoption of transgender ideology and plays on most decent parent's wish to have their children taught tolerance and diversity and the acceptance of LGBT issues, but who are not aware of the complexity or controversial issues surrounding transgender issues and the ideologies pushed by some.

Also, LGBT Youth have a 'Chat Line', which they are expanding with further recruitment of 'Digital Officers'. Given their approach to not sharing information with children's parents, it is of concern as to what advice is/will be given via these Chat lines, or indeed who LGBT Youth is accountable to in the giving of advice to young vulnerable people.

(Also posted this on the Scotsnet Thread)

BetsyM00 · 15/08/2018 11:45

Anyone in East Ayrshire? They are piloting this programme in one primary and one secondary school already.

WaddIelikeapenguin · 14/08/2018 17:16

You can find the list of your MSPs at theyworkforyou.com Smile

howonearthdidwegethere · 14/08/2018 13:40

They advertised for people to write the guidance on the GLOW website earlier this year. This is the ad that comes up on Google:

TASC (Scotland) Ltd
TASC was established in 1992 by Cathy McCulloch and Colin Morrison.
TASC provides a range of services which include social research and service evaluation. We have a particular interest in some of the issues and areas which are detailed in the examples we give of our work.
TASC has a real interest in people - how they experience their lives and what their dreams, hopes and ambitions are for themselves and for their families and communities.

TASC is looking for two creative, self-starting professionals who possess a passion for developing the wellbeing of Scotland's children and young people. Each part-time post (3 days per week) will support the writing, development and piloting of Scotland's new Relationships, Sexual Health and Parenthood (RSHP) Education teaching resource. For further information and application form go to:

• rshp.scot/vacancies-work-with-us/
• goodmoves.org.uk/vacancy/a4s0n000000y4jiqa0-project-worker

We work with policy makers and service providers to help ensure that the needs and interests of service users are recognised and met.
The broad scope of our interests is a reflection of a perspective that sees people and communities in the round.
Contact us
Email: [email protected]
Tel: 0131 555 3527

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howonearthdidwegethere · 14/08/2018 13:32

www.tascagency.co.uk/index.html

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC419596

They seem to be a private research company.

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BetsyM00 · 14/08/2018 13:27

And on the rhsp site: "An independent agency TASC (Scotland) Ltd has been commissioned to deliver the programme. Contact Colin Morrison [email protected]"

So rhsp = tasc. Not sure why they needed 2 websites.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 14/08/2018 13:20

They have decided that boy / girl are gender labels and nothing to do with sex.

This is all very very weird. The pace of change, the change of language.

This means that scottish schools / government cannot do any research / reporting into anything sex based in schools using the language girls / boys.

I only looked at one small section.

YeTalkShiteHen · 14/08/2018 13:19

North Lanarkshire is one of the LAs.

howonearthdidwegethere · 14/08/2018 13:18

Ah, so not willing to tell you WHICH third sector organisations. Hmm.

I'd like to know if there are any actual SCIENTISTS writing this. You'd think there would be some actual scientists in NHS GG&C...

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