Ruby Rose Twitter Backlash

According to wiki she was born in 1986.

No context as to how old Ruby was when the conversation happened though, to me the way she described it sounded like the way quite a young girl might have talked to her mum. I remember my dd first telling dh and me that she was interested in girls and I'm pretty sure she didn't say that she was bisexual (and she was born in 2000).

I was just worried because I didn't know it was a thing," Ruby told Willie. "I knew how I felt, I knew what I kind of identified as, but the words gay or lesbian, I didn't know anyone else that was gay or lesbian, so I didn't really know how to word it

How is it possible to have been born in 1986, live in Melbourne, have a single parent, artist mother and have so little knowledge about being gay?

This acting gig should be reserved for a Jewish lesbian bat. Only a Jewish lesbian bat would understand this role. There are so few acting gigs for Jewish lesbian bats - well - obviously - this should go to that Jewish lesbian bat waiting in the wings ... anything else is anti-Semitic homophobic anti-batness.

I agree with hazeyjane "This whole thing demonstrates how humanity is going to disappear up it's own fundament."

I remember a school production of Joseph and the Technicolor dream coat. I am not sure any of those kids were Jewish or Egyptian!

Nobody complained at Nick Robinson being cast as Simon in Love, Simon despite the fact that he’s straight and it would have been an opportunity for an openly gay actor playing a gay role. But he’s brilliant in that role because he’s, you know, acting dahling.

As usual when people discover they have power they abuse it.
Then they will lament that no one cares what they think.

I think the way forward is to just have everyone playing themselves, no fictional characters at all. The film about me is going to be amazing. I almost tripped over this morning and I’m about to rearrange a dental appointment. The ratings are gonna be huge.

So if Ruby Rose is the wrong subtype of gender non-conforming female human (she doesn’t deny she’s female, does she? With a name like Ruby Rose? The character she plays in The Meg is referred to as she)

..... who would be the correct subtype of gender non-confirming female? Does it have to be a butch “cisgender” lesbian, but but but, how can a “cisgender” woman be butch, that’s by definition a masculine presenting woman....🤯

Who the fuck are these people who complain about these things. As PPs have said, gay men have been acting straight for aeons. And women. And vice versa. It’s ACTING!

I’m guessing, the objection comes because if a nonbinary person can play a woman, perhaps they really are actually an actual real woman, and this threatens the whole gender/trans ideology. With, y’know, reality.

And only the Queen can play the Queen...sorry Olivia Coleman, you're out of a job.

Hang on didn’t Ruby Rose portray a lesbian character in orange is the new Black?

I hope people take screenshots of everyone bullying her.

I want to see every single one of those people also cry when Idris Elba becomes the new Bond.

And of course we should now start a campaign that only actual, or at least ex, athletes can play sports roles in movies and on TV. Only soldiers or ex soldiers play in war movies, etc.

My favourite from FB today was a comment from a gay man saying "what's the problem? Tom Cruise has been playing straight men for years!".

Actors acting. How dare they!

I think the end result of all this is going to be celebrities coming off twitter, and those who remain will just keep it impersonal and strictly for the purpose of publicising their projects. Which is a shame, because a lot of them do like to use it to communicate directly with their fan base, but no one needs to be bullied and harrassed for simply doing their job.

NOT actually batwoman ^

For feck's sake - the point of having actors is their ability to ACT in a role - to become this person when they are not that person. To be Bat woman when you are NOT in act bat woman.

All of this tantruming, stomping of feet, and beating of fists is just absolutely ridiculous and so are Hollywood for giving into this crap.

I think I've misunderstood before I had my coffee this morning and confused Gandalf with dumbeldore 😂

Thanks for the Meg Ryan clarification. I had a long day yesterday and lots of things conspired to make me feel I was in a parallel universe!!

This is all about victim hierarchy stuff isn't it? Like the notion that it is impossible for black people to be racist because the system keeps them so far down and they do not ever have the institutional power to be racist to a white person?
So it is oppressive behaviour to cast a straight man as a gay man, but not the other way around because of the power dynamics in play? The same with a trans actor. So casting a born woman in a trans role is oppressive, but casting a transwoman as a born woman is fighting against oppression.

To my mind it's all a confusion of the justified need for fair representation and the frankly pernicious influence of identity politics. Nobody seems to value the logical application of ideas or understand nuance and subtlety anymore.

Magneto isn't gay, he has a wife and child in one film does he not?
So Ian McKellen shouldn't have been allowed to play the role then?

This whole thing demonstrates how humanity is going to disappear up it's own fundament.

Anyway surely this is a clear case of discrimination on grounds of sexuality as well? Or am I just totally confused?

Magneto isn't gay, he has a wife and child in one film does he not?

Gah, autocorrect - CAN have a film with not only a female lead, but a lesbian.

This is such a dumb argument! There was an article on the BBC website this week, probably still there about actors who were trans - some playing trans roles, other not. The message of the piece being that trans actors could/should be treated like any other actor - and simply act. Then you get this nonsensical hounding of actors acting roles that are, in this and the Scarlett woman, female and gay and instead of that being a cause to acknowledge you can't have a big film with not only a female lead, but a gay one. Scarlett wasn't butch or trans enough for her critics and Ruby isn't gay or Jewish enough. Ffs, even if she chooses not to call herself a lesbian she is very clearly a woman married to another woman!!! AND it's acting - which is a skilled and paid way of PRETENDING