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Woman's Hour discusses adult bullying with representative from 'Ditch The Label' providing expert advice

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R0wantrees · 13/08/2018 10:35

On now

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R0wantrees · 14/08/2018 08:57

I'm going to have another listen later Eresh, I need to clarify what was said. That was just my memory but it was odd....

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Ereshkigal · 14/08/2018 08:54

massive 'analysis' they had done of twitter comments which showed (I think) that the majority of misogynistic bullying tweets were by women.

How would they even know who was actually a woman? Given that on Twitter it means nothing.

R0wantrees · 14/08/2018 08:52

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bf4c3p

'And we're talking being bullied as an adult. It's normally associated with younger people and children but it can happen later in life too. What's the best way to handle it?'

Presenter Jane Garvey
Producer Beverley Purcell.

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R0wantrees · 14/08/2018 08:51

The assertion, that there are 'thousands of abusive texts from... terfs'

I've noticed how such comments go unchallenged and absorbed.

There was also a rather odd assertion on the WH segment by the 'Ditch the Lable' representative about some massive 'analysis' they had done of twitter comments which showed (I think) that the majority of misogynistic bullying tweets were by women. I need to listen again though.

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UpstartCrow · 14/08/2018 08:46

''this will learn her''? ffs. That is not a responsible tweet from an anti bullying campaigner.

R0wantrees · 14/08/2018 08:37

twitter.com/DiageoLiam/status/1024610634116341760

Liam Hackett claims after calling out lecturer Kathleen Stock for being 'incredibly transphobic' he received 'thousands of abusive tweets from her community of terfs'

Woman's Hour discusses adult bullying with representative from 'Ditch The Label' providing expert advice
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R0wantrees · 14/08/2018 08:32

Is someone able to put together the specific targetting of Kathleen Stock?

I did wonder if Woman's Hour would be interestested in interviewing her.

University of Sussex Vice Chancellor's statement, 'Living Our Values':
here
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"I have also reflected upon a situation involving an academic member of staff here at Sussex and the concerns raised by some members of our community on the views that she has shared on the Gender Recognition Act, which the government is currently consulting on.

The academic in question has come under fire for articulating views, informed by her philosophical research and scholarship, on the laws and customs surrounding gender identity. Although she has stated that she is fully supportive of the rights of everyone to identify their own gender, she has also raised questions about where boundaries should be set and these have provoked strong feelings and, in some cases, accusations. It’s at this juncture I’ve felt uncomfortable about the implication that there may be something more sinister going on.

This situation is actually a telling example of how we can choose to call upon our values to inform how we act.

By celebrating inclusion, we must recognise the personal courage of the many individuals who come up against abuse or unacceptable behaviour - just because they are being themselves. I know it has been extremely difficult for many people in the transgender and non-binary community to hear the views held by our academic.

But for me, alongside this, we must also be kind to those people who are brave enough to share their own views – and respect the courage they have for doing so. Whether it is one of our academics or another member of staff, or one of our students, I feel very strongly that we must respect their right to free speech. I hold a deep-rooted concern about the future of our democratic society if we silence the views of people we don't agree with – even if our disagreements are vehemently opposed." (continues)

Thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301937-Sussex-Students-Union-defames-Dr-Kathleen-Stock-Title-Edited-by-MNHQ

Woman's Hour discusses adult bullying with representative from 'Ditch The Label' providing expert advice
Woman's Hour discusses adult bullying with representative from 'Ditch The Label' providing expert advice
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Angryresister · 14/08/2018 00:42

I will yet again write in with instances of how adult women are being bullied but I have no expectation that it will reach the presenters. Someone, somewhere is throwing anything relating to GC women is being dumped in the rubbish bin.it is quite extraordinary the lengths they are going to , to avoid the discussion.. ( though I have to admit I haven't listened to this yet. On my list of to do s. )

R0wantrees · 13/08/2018 10:50

It will be available on catch up soon.

recent thread about Liam Hackett (CEO of Ditch the Label) targetting of Professor Kathleen Stock:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3299191-A-new-member-of-the-Leftie-Misogynists-club

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WarmWishes · 13/08/2018 10:44

Missed it.

R0wantrees · 13/08/2018 10:38

Jane Garvey would like listeners to email in with examples of adult bullying.

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