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Can a man teach feminism?

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lucydogz · 11/08/2018 14:18

Reading the Guardian colour supp today, an article about gal dem quotes 2 young black women saying they were shocked, when taking a class on Feminism at Bristol university, that it was taken by white man.
Firstly, I see no relevance in his race. But why shouldn't a man teach Feminism?

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 15/08/2018 00:44

Got a severe case of correctile dysfunction here. Grin

thebewilderness · 15/08/2018 00:28

I have been saying this since the backlash started in the early eighties, and I said it in this thread also.
Feminism is the political movement for the liberation of women.
Always has been.
The droids you are looking for are the Egalitarians down the hall.

Italiangreyhound · 15/08/2018 00:24

Monday55 I've looked back at my first comment directed to you and I cannot see that it is aggressive. However, if you have found it to be aggressive then I apologise, since that was not my intention.

Monday55 · 15/08/2018 00:23

@thebewilderness point proven. Thanks.

Monday55 · 15/08/2018 00:22

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thebewilderness · 15/08/2018 00:20

Could not stick the flounce! -3.

thebewilderness · 15/08/2018 00:19

Monday55 I have reported your personal attacks on this thread as they violate of talk guideline.

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Monday55 · 15/08/2018 00:13

@italiangreyhound your first reply to me was aggressive and I had to reply in the same manner.

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again another hypocrite statement...You expect everyone to abide by your ways and treat you nice but you won't treat others in the same manor..because its none of your business? (as you noted on your first reply )
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.I'd be happy to get an essay insight on how you've landed in possibly the 100th definition and meaning of feminism

thebewilderness · 15/08/2018 00:11

I understand that you do not know how the website works nor the difference between bolding a name and @ing them a message. That is why I told you that you were sending an email to some unsuspecting person while the person you thought you were annoying was on the thread with you.
Do you normally text people to interrupt them while you are talking to them? Odd thing to do.

Monday55 · 15/08/2018 00:07

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Moussemoose · 15/08/2018 00:07

If when you say 'teaching' you mean run a university department, design courses, research and publish then yes you would need to be a feminist and a woman. This is being an academic it is NOT being a teacher.

If when you say 'teaching' you mean A level politics or sociology then it is ludicrous to suggest only women can teach the topic.

Without wanting to be too critical I have found that academics aren't always the best teachers and some have rather limited teaching skills.

CardsforKittens · 15/08/2018 00:01

This whole whole thread could be a reminder that a man needs a minimim of a PhD in Women's Studies before he could be anywhere near qualified to teach any aspect of feminist theory.

Italiangreyhound · 15/08/2018 00:00

@Monday55

"so it's ok for the rest of the world to look at you and say whoever teaches you feminism is none of their business ? WTF? are you even listening to yourself or reading what you're writing should I say?"

I really have no idea what you are saying.

"You can't replace oppresion with oppression because that would make you a hypocrite not a feminist unfortunately"

Are you saying it is oppressive not to let men teach feminism? Because if that is what you are saying, I think you we just have different ideas of what feminism means.

Your manner is quite aggressive so I think I will stop engaging with you now. I am pretty sure you are not interested in what I have to say and I can't understand what you are saying to me, so maybe best if I just leave it.

thebewilderness · 14/08/2018 23:59

so that's every history teacher out of a job then....
That wouldn't be fair then would it.
Maybe I'll just avoid taking classes from men who know less about the subject than I do, eh?

thebewilderness · 14/08/2018 23:55

Twice.

Monday55 · 14/08/2018 23:55

You do know that some lectures are assigned lessons right ? They don't get to choose every unit they teach. The poor guy might have been covering a maternity leave or perhaps If the head of that department was a women would that make you sleep at night or would you bend the definition of feminism again to make yourself feel better?
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thebewilderness · 14/08/2018 23:55

You appear to be an adherent of the 5th rule of misogyny: Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.

Consequently there is no point in trying to discuss a matter with you that you are entirely ignorant of.

FYI someone whose user name is thebew is going to wonder why you sent them an email alert.

Moussemoose · 14/08/2018 23:54

"I would not want to take a class from a person whose life experience prevented them from knowing any more about the subject than I could learn by reading the same book they did"

thebewilderness so that's every history teacher out of a job then....

Monday55 · 14/08/2018 23:52

@thebew quiet frankly that's what feminism is... otherwise you might have to come up with a new name for your cult. I don't see the point of trying to score browny points with men on who can do better at what when we can just share the cake equally.
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some feminist do tend to choose and pick and this has been proven so many times in this thread.

thebewilderness · 14/08/2018 23:52

I would not want to take a class from a person whose life experience prevented them from knowing any more about the subject than I could learn by reading the same book they did. What would be the point?

Monday55 · 14/08/2018 23:49

@thebew...I don't have a problem with the oppressor teaching hence why I said I never called my teacher racist or inexperienced for teaching me subjects they had no relation to such as history on slavery and religious education.
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.You guys are the ones who have a problem with it hence why I've been saying if the student isn't convinced considering they're at University they should know better and do their own research to understand what's going on even if it means contacting other feminists who've been fighting the cause for a long time.
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no need to twist my words
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for the discussion to end we would need to interview this lecturer who started this whole debate and see what he has to say for himself

thebewilderness · 14/08/2018 23:46

and feminism is about equality for everyone..You can't come up with your own definition, as that wouldn't make you feminist as you're clearly disregarding what feminism really stands for.

You can tell this lie a thousand times but Feminism has never ever been about equality with and for men. Feminists have explained this repeatedly ever since the men started insisting that Feminism should be about equality during the backlash. I was there. I remember it very well.

thebewilderness · 14/08/2018 23:43

Class not calss. Pardon my French.

thebewilderness · 14/08/2018 23:42

Monday55
You can't replace oppresion with oppression because that would make you a hypocrite not a feminist unfortunately

And yet you fail to see the problem with the oppressor teaching the oppressed a calss on their political movement to overthrow the oppressor? Srsly!