Looks like Grindr are setting up a trans version... but the name...

Ganache or buttercream?

Looks like someone has a cake to bake...

Do enlighten us pigeons.

Me too

Yes I'm agog to hear.

Can you explain it teejay? How does a new app tackle racism on an existing app?

Save your breath WORDS.

Arguing with the people here is like playing chess against a pigeon. They knock all the pieces over, shit all over the board and then strut around lime they won.

I lurk a lot on here purely for the comedy value - I'm rarely disappointed.

It's to tackle racism on the main app -Grindr.

So are they getting rid of Grindr and replacing it with kindr? Otherwise I can’t see how a new app tackles racism on the existing app. It’s just a new app where you can’t be racist and the existing app stays as racist as it was.

1. It’s a stupid name for a dating app.
2. It’s incredibly marketing - you do not create an offshoot of your main product that’s ‘less racist’ because it implies your main product IS racist. Imagine a big trusted brand doing adverts like ‘New!! Wheatyflakes! Less toxic than regular Wheatyflakes!’ - stupid idea.

Words DO mean something. This is a spectacular marketing fail. It’s actively suggesting that the main brand is racist/discriminatory. A group of stoned badgers could have come up with a less shit name and marketing angle.

What is wrong with all of you?? It's to tackle racism on the main app -Grindr. Kindr as in KIND, as in 'to be kinder'. You are the most paranoid group of human beings I've ever come across. You're linking this to pedophilia and bringing in Munroe Bergdorf for absolutely no reason. Are you all completely devoid of brain cells? I'm seriously worried for your children that they're being raised by such bigoted and delusional people.

Yeeeah - it is all us. Sure thing. We brought MB in all on our own.

If Kindr is all "about racism" why is it being marketed as "shaking up the cis-tem"? This tweet reads clearly as if it's aimed at trans people.

That's a rather ironic name, wordsmeansomething. I quite agree, they do.

I believe MB has been discussing this? RTFT.

The fact remains that Kindr is a fucking stupid name for a dating app.

Another good point:

Surely instead of creating a whole new “racism free” app, which is essentially validating the “racist dating one”, Grindr could actually just address the racism on the existing app and delete racist users?

What is wrong with all of you?? It's to tackle racism on the main app -Grindr. Kindr as in KIND, as in 'to be kinder'. You are the most paranoid group of human beings I've ever come across. You're linking this to pedophilia and bringing in Munroe Bergdorf for absolutely no reason. Are you all completely devoid of brain cells? I'm seriously worried for your children that they're being raised by such bigoted and delusional people.

The thing is, as a woman you meet a fair amount of misogonystic men, racist men, men who don't want to date fat people on these dating apps. I get annoyed by these men because I think they are arseholes but I don't get annoyed that they wouldn't date me for whatever reason, I absolutely don't want them to start dating me because they are dicks. I would rather they were open about their arseholeness so I can give them a wide berth. I don't want to tell them "give fat people a chance" because I think overweight people/black people/disabled people deserve better than someone who hates them.

I can't see how it will be successful tbh. Their target audience seems to be people who aren't finding dates with their target demographic, along with the people who don't want to date them but should be 'kinder' and do it anyway.
The first group will sign up, the second won't.

And why are they pinning this on the gay community?

Every gay man I've ever met, has always been very blatant about their likes and dislikes. I mean, in your face blatant. I mean, why wouldn't they be - they are men and as such have no illusions about trying to pretend to be PC in any way.

It is either a massive wind up, or severely sinister and underhand - and in both instances, the trans community should be fuming not posting on twitter that FWR should be closed down or the police called on us for pointing it out.

The fact that they are not furious - what is that saying in itself?

You can’t police who somebody shags.

I've seen incels advocate that any woman with a "sexual market value" below a certain value should be mandated by the govt to have a date each week with a single man allocated to her by said govt. This idea that you can police who someone shags (because, let's be honest, that's what these mandatory dates are expected to lead to) is incel "logic".

Who do they actually expect to use the app?

Having sex with people from other races doesn't make you Ghandi.

Hahaha!

I just don’t get it, period. Telling people they can’t have preferences, however grim you may find their preferences, just doesn’t work. You can’t police who somebody shags.

As for the name, well...I’d be expecting a free cheapo plastic toy upon sign-up. Grim.

Grindr users are apparently very upset about the 'fatphobia' and 'femmephobia' as well as 'transphobia' (which is gay men not wanting to shag female transmen as far as I can tell)

Gay men on hook up apps tend to be much more upfront about what they are looking for - male socialisation and entitlement is a thing after all. I don't get what this app is for though. Is it for the fat and feminine gay men as well as the female ones to all hook up with each other? Or is it to encourage all gay men to use to be open to the fat, feminine and female gay men?? It's a totally bizarre concept.

I know it's also meant to address racism but 'BME grindr' is just such a bizarre concept I can't get my head round it.

As other people have said, the whole 'kinder' thing is creepy when it comes to dating.
I sure as hell wouldn't want anyone dating me out of 'kindness'. I'd only want someone who is genuinely interested.
Anyone who's not bothered if someone isn't attracted to them and happy to be dated out of 'kindness', is showing that they don't really care about other people's feelings or boundaries as long as they get sex/attention. Creepy and entitled as hell.

Also, still waiting for anyone to give a fuck about the endless harassment and abuse women face on dating apps, which they could do easily by banning users who send repeat abuse or dick pics.
Same with the racism. If it's a problem, they need to deal with it in the app by banning users who send racist messages or abuse.
But they're not doing that, instread it's all about telling people to be 'kinder' and date those they're not interested in.
Again, creepy and entitled. Yuck.

That has to be a wind up surely?

There is no such thing as discriminatory dating preferences. Having sex with people from other races doesn't make you Ghandi. Look at the inter-racial porn - look at Latina porn. It is the most racist material on the internet. You can't prove you're not bigoted by having sex with someone. In fact - the opposite can be the case if you fetishe the person because of their race. To pretend that you don't see race or it does not factor into your attraction to someone is a lie. You don't get a cookie for having sex with a black dude that's one of the most patronizing and RACIST concepts out there. Who wants a pity fuck? The suggestion that this makes you kindr?

I'm sorry but I can't stop seeing kinder when I see that word now - WHY did they choose that name?