Why is he crying? Laura Huteson death

It's beyond appalling. What he hell goes through the heads of juries and judges on cases like this? He was even found not guilty of grievous bodily harm. Her injuries included a blow out fracture to her left eye.
The judge said "This was grossly irresponsible behaviour by you".

I'm so sick of reading about these "sex games gone wrong".

Three years and 8 months
That's all that Natalie Connolly's life was worth to the law of the land. Her injuries were so horrific yet this wealthy millionaire (who has been out on bail since his conviction) gets a minimal sentence for 'sex games gone wrong' aka as murder to the rest of us.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6503433/Businessman-left-injured-bleeding-lover-die-jailed.html

At school there was a boy who would jokingly pretend to choke girls, because that’s what they like (no prizes for guessing where that’s come from) - he’s the one person in my life that I’ve had really bad vibes from, and have asked dd to never be alone with him!

This was posted on another thread. Looks like a murderer in the making but apparently the school did nothing when he was reported. It's really worrying.

All these cases are horrific, but why can such terrible internal injuries be ever considered "consensual" part of sexual activity? Poor Natalie Connolly - it's appalling that he got a manslaughter conviction only.

Older cases

2001 South shields: Jacqueline Heaton (32) is murdered by her husband Norman. Murder, Life sentence min term 12 years
Newcastle Crown Court heard the couple had been due to split up on the day of her death after a series of rows. But during one last passionate session, Mrs Heaton was strangled with a length of washing line in an alleged sex game. Heaton told police he had accidentally killed her, but the court heard he planned to snatch his two sons from her and had prepared a letter to post to her afterwards.
www.shieldsgazette.com/news/murder-suspect-wrote-hate-letter-1-1254338
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/no-early-release-sex-games-1531034

1979 South Shields: 19 year old Vivienne Scott is strangled by John Dudgeon (aka John Taylor) "when he was a 21-year-old DJ in his home town, he suffocated 19-year-old Vivienne Scott, who had refused him sex. Taylor, who lived at the Britannia pub, in Westoe Road, at the time, dumped her body near his home and later claimed her death was a result of a prank which had gone wrong during a sex game.
Read more at: www.shieldsgazette.com/news/psycho-in-bid-for-freedom-1-1256846
He was jailed for four years for her manslaughter. The trial judge said she died after 'horseplay.'
Read more at: www.shieldsgazette.com/news/failed-legal-plea-of-double-killer-1-1252423

When did dismissing these sorts of deaths as "sex games gone wrong" become a thing? I search my memory for news stories of murders when I was younger, no doubt a lot of DV deaths weren't even reported but I don't recall any "sex games". Undoubtedly it must be linked to the rise of porn and the internet but I just wonder about how it suddenly became a useful line of defence.

There's a thread on AIBU about this. Appalling case. 40 injuries and much more are gross negligence apparently.

To be incensed by this - WARNING: UPSETTING CONTENT. http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3448773-To-be-incensed-by-this-WARNING-UPSETTING-CONTENT

I would really hope the police prosecute. But they don’t exactly have a history of taking violence against women seriously, do they?

Hackmum I saw that. Appalling. Surely the police will prosecute? (It'll be dismissed as banter or some such rubbish)

"In 2014, the New Zealand Family Violence Death Review Committee found strangulation histories in 71 per cent of its cases, and 50 per cent of those cases involved multiple strangulations.

The FVDRC concluded that strangulation was a modus operandi for some abusers.

Women's Refuge told the New Zealand Law Commission that the "vast majority" of victims it deals with have been strangled by their partners.

The commission reported that "abusers do not strangle to kill, but to show that they can kill". But all too often they actually kill, whether by strangulation or some other brutality"

Well done NZ doing some research and changing the law. Time for the same in this country though I would like to see tougher sentences and no defence of "sex games gone wrong".

This is such a shocking thread. Half of me wants to show it to DD's and half of me doesn't as it's too upsetting.

This makes me so angry these poor women and their families

It the same old belief that men are entitled to sex and can’t help themselves and lose any reasoning when they are sexually aroused

What utter rubbish it’s male violence against women

Anlaf - Wikipedia has a quite long article about the death of Jane Longhurst, whose murderer claimed it was a case of "sex games gone wrong". I won't expand here, in case people would rather not read about the killer's previous activities and porn habits

The murderer of Charlotte Teeling also claimed it was "rough sex gone wrong"

As did the murderer of Karen Rae (as an aside - how great to see the headline on this article describe the killer as a misogynist)

The killer of Chloe Miazek picked up a woman who was so drunk that she had been thrown out of a nightclub in Aberdeen then had "rough sex gone wrong"

I'm quite horrified, in fact, just how many women are killed by strangulation. In the 5 mins that I've been googling, I've come across numerous articles about women strangled by their husbands (not during sex) and women strangled by their sons (ditto).

And where the defence is "rough sex gone wrong", it's striking how many cases involve couples who have only known each other for a very short time (a couple of hours, for example). I can't believe that any woman would agree to consensual breathing play with a stranger. And in many cases, their capacity to give consent to regular, vanilla sex was significantly impaired (usually through drink), but the prosecution seems to focus on a murder charge, not rape. I wonder if this is because murder is the greater charge in terms of sentence, and easier to prove?

Did anyone else read about this very strange case the other day?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6464477/Shocking-moment-15st-American-football-playing-pub-chef-gets-bar-manager-HEADLOCK.html

A female bar manager is "strangled" by a colleague and passes out, and doesn't realise what happens until she later sees it on CCTV footage. Her employer takes no action and seems to think she is making a fuss about nothing. The whole episode is utterly shocking, and there is no explanation as to why he might have done this to her - in full view of colleagues.

Yeahnahyeah the first day the NZ law criminalising strangulation was in place a man was charged under it.

We have significant issues with donestic violence here but please they are taking some steps to try and improve things (allowing the video of victim statements will help too).

The very very excellent Karen ingala Smith and Women's Aid's Femicide census has 25 women killed by strangulation in one year. If we assume it's a similar number each year, would be interesting to know how many of those men claim sex game gone wrong

Btw we haven't found all of these, I am certain. Google is very unhelpful with local news and so I've been searching sex game gone wrong and strangle sex directly on local newspaper sites as well as through google.

If anyone fancies doing the same for their local newspaper I'd be v grateful.

man who murdered his ex-girlfriend after tying her to a bed and having sex with her

That would be RAPE. Either he kidnapped her which the report says, or she was willing to the point he killed her thus he didn't kidnap her. I wonder, did the other hapless "innocent" man go to the police when Lorna died?

These cases are horrific.

What is that quote by Philip Larkin? Something about "if women knew what men were thinking, they wouldn't go near us"?

And violent porn ubiquitous now to encourage them in their sick fantasies which they now think are perfectly normal. The worst aspects of their sexual nature have been given societal full rein by all this porn. It's terrifying.

The male judges, lawyers and police officers aren't immune either.

Reading this thread again, I hope my daughters are gay and my sons straight. I just want them to keep away from men.

Interesting Yeahnahyeah

AnI was just about to post this - from the US - but here is a man who non-consensually strangles his girlfriends, then claims it was consensual sex play.

He also happens to be New York's attorney general, and a former senator, who introduced a law that made strangulation a serious crime

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eric-schneiderman-strangling-women_us_5af22e42e4b00a3224ee26b1

Apologies if already posted - I have just skimmed this thread. New law just passed in NZ this week.
i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/109116027/editorial-strangulation-the-edge-of-homicide

It feels important doesn't it Chatty, when you see the pattern.

(the Jane Coutts murder that Ducking linked to - the man that killed her had been watching hours of violent porn and her MP took up the case news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/3471441.stm

And another one:

April 2018 - Lesley Potter (66) is killed by her husband Derek Potter. He made various claims around her death - and Potter accepted he had a temper, and accepted he had strangled his wife on occasions for sexual reasons. He also accepted he had previously “held” her by the throat in the Village Inn pub when he thought she was about to say something that would “incriminate” him.

Whose "sexual reasons," eh?
www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/live-updates-man-accused-strangling-15346811
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45960656

Enough for one night. for all.

Anlaf thank you for collecting the reports of their cases here. This very disturbing claim made by the male perpetrators becomes so obvious when you see these cases together. to the women and their families and friends.

I'm bumping this cheerless thread to log the case above - another man strangling a woman and claiming (this time unsuccessfully) that this was part of a "sex game gone wrong". to Hannah's family, and to all the women and those who loved em on this thread.

More:

2002 Northampton: Lorna Slaney (31) is killed by Andrew Murray (convicted of rape and murder), with Carl Stokes acquitted of murder and rape and later convicted of false imprisonment. Stokes claimed he was tricked into a bondage and rape sex game gone wrong, and "I didn’t know she was in any danger. I had no reason to distrust Murray.”

Lorna was in a relationship with Murray and he and Stokes kidnapped her and tied her to a bed. In Stokes' trial, the prosecution said you would have been beating up Lorna against her will and having intercourse with her against her will. “Her attempts to fight and stop herself from being tied up were genuine cries for help, she was helpless.”
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/northamptonshire/5016116.stm
www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/murder-trial-told-of-sex-trick-1-946870

The Murray one was eligible for parole from 2015, if only be freed if the Parole Board says he is not a public danger.