Burglar breaks into house, steals woman's clothes and .... Jeez

Hey, now. According to the Pink News umbrella, the alleged burglar is just a sweet, harmless, victimised, misunderstood trans and y'all are bigots.

It would be nice if these things were taken more seriously, rather than a giggle and "that's a bit naughty, hah hah".

It is treated like that isn't it. Most people's response would be 'ew, what a weirdo' whilst thinking the man wasn't causing much harm. That attitude feels too ingrained to change but it does need to change. Perhaps useful to comment oin online news reports of this type, reiterating the stats and psychological research that shows men displaying this behaviour typically escalate to crimes with more horrific consequences.

It would be nice if these things were taken more seriously, rather than a giggle and "that's a bit naughty, hah hah"

Like flashers. I always thought that they were funny because they were sent up in so many comedy/variety shows ... until I saw one.

If you want to wear women's clothes, they are readily available for purchase. Stealing them and then masturbating in the yard is not just a fetish but a threat.

I agree Dance.

Boundary violation is what they get off on.

Like this one, Col Russell Williams, started off voyeur, then B&E stealing and selfie-ing in the underwear, then rape and murder.

It would be nice if these things were taken more seriously, rather than a giggle and "that's a bit naughty, hah hah".

This guy needs locking up for life - he's such a danger to women and girls and will never change

Planned, prepared, capable to extreme violence and using weapons

Yup, and The Guardian have been treating this pervert, who has subsequently decided to be trans, as some kind of martyr because the prison staff won't let h* have cosmetics, and have deliberately omitted the sexual predation aspect of h* crimes to drum up sympathy.

I wonder how many journalists are members of the NUJ - extract from their code of conduct:

At all times upholds and defends the principle of media freedom, the right of freedom of expression and the right of the public to be informed.

Strives to ensure that information disseminated is honestly conveyed, accurate and fair.

Does her/his utmost to correct harmful inaccuracies.

Differentiates between fact and opinion.

This isn't poor reporting but journalism not fit for purpose - maybe they rationalise their unethical reporting by another point in the code of conduct :

Produces no material likely to lead to hatred or discrimination on the grounds of a person’s age, gender, race, colour, creed, legal status, disability, marital status, or sexual orientation.

Seems like telling the truth isn't considered a key competence for the job anymore

It's not a funny topic, but I do have a funny story. Years ago when I was still living with my family, we were hanging around the kitchen one day, when the phone rang.

My sister picked it up, listened for a bit with a really puzzled expression, then put her hand over the mouth piece, handed the phone to my dad, saying, "I can't understand him". My Dad takes the phone, listens a bit and then yells, "You dirty bastard", and slams down the phone.

Turns out it was an obscene phone call, but the caller had such a strong, Scots accent, my teenage sister didn't understand a word.

I used to get obscene phone calls when I lived in London 30 years ago. Very young women may have been lucky thus far, but I can't imagine many middle aged women haven't had at least one bad experience in the course of their lives.

Planned, prepared, capable to extreme violence and using weapons

Yup, and The Guardian have been treating this pervert, who has subsequently decided to be trans, as some kind of martyr because the prison staff won't let h* have cosmetics, and have deliberately omitted the sexual predation aspect of h* crimes to drum up sympathy.

Oh and Dean was released on licence for those offences that they were convicted of back in 2009.

Was living at a bail hostel and got recalled for breaching licence conditions. Was returned to a male prison and that's when the so-called hunger strike began.

So Dean has already had an opportunity to go straight. Didn't take it.

I only know this because Dean's "supporters" were blabbing about it on the petition to get Dean moved to a women's prison.

Just as an aside, when I was digging into Jess Bradley's background (like you do), there were some references to someone called Taylor who is in prison with an IPP (Indeterminate Sentence for Public Protection). Bradley was one of the group who write to Taylor and send Taylor money in prison.

Seems to be Claire Taylor who was convicted of brandishing a knife, threatening to kill a 90 year old woman with dementia, then tying her up while Taylor robbed her.

link

Claire Taylor seems to be going by the name Taylor these days. TRAs saying that Taylor is trans and is masculine-presenting.

However, neither Taylor nor the TRAs are asking for a transfer to a male prison. Just that Taylor needs better treatment in the women's prison that they are in.

Just demonstrates the double standards, doesn't it?

TRA logic:

• Male prisoner who identifies as a woman = must be moved to female prison otherwise it is de facto inhumane/degrading treatment

• Female prisoner who identifies as a man = must stay in a women's prison

I was burgled when sharing a flat in the early 80s - they took some money, not much, and irreplaceable sentimental,value jewellery. We then noticed that they had also taken some lingerie from my flatmates room, a photo of her in a bikini and three big, expensive silk scarves of mine ( 80s fashion.......) . One of the scarves (Hermes, dammit) was screwed up beside my bed - the police gave it one look and said ‘I’d burn that, love ‘ and told us they had a fair idea of which particular little ‘pervy item’ might have been responsible. ( No DNA testing then but also no careful police speak !)

Ugh.

There’s a local beauty spot where I walk the dogs where we regularly stumble on multiple different pairs of women’s pants in the secluded areas

I am disgusted by this. I walk my dog in a wood where I often see loads of discarded knickers in the bushes. I admit I thought it was people going in the woods to shag and leaving their kecks behind, I often joked to DP that there must be a huge group of shaggers in there each weekend! Now I'm convinced it's sick fucking men stealing womens' pants and wanking into them

I’ve twice been physically restrained by a strange man with his dick out, in two different cities almost two decades apart.
Both times the police attended immediately, because these are crimes that escalate. Neither time did a prosecution take place, despite in the second instance, the police appeared to know exactly who I was describing.

Anything non-consensual isn’t kink, it’s crime.

How is it complex? He's a common pervert and stalker, and proven to be violent and dangerous. Complex my arse.

And "carrying sanitary towels", the Other

But there''s obviously no reason why we shouldn't share women's public loos with anyone who says that they are female, hey?

Lancashire Telegraph's reporting
23rd May 2009
'Cross-dressing Burnley burglar jailed indefinitely'

(extract)
"Gary Dean Marie, 42, committed more than 30 offences, including voyeurism, aggravated burglary and assaulting police officers, a court heard yesterday.

Marie, of Lubbock Street, Burnley, was a sexual offender who broke into several homes and filmed himself wearing underwear belonging to teenage girls in Burnley and Padiham, Preston Crown Court was told." (continues)

"And they also revealed that more victims, both in East Lancashire and abroad, may also have been abused by Marie, who was born in the Channel Islands.

The court had earlier been told that plain clothes police officers arrested Marie at 3am in March last year after spotting him riding a bike in Padiham.

However, Marie, wearing dark clothing and a home-made balaclava, fled and fired CS gas, flooring three officers.

Eventually, he was arrested and was found to be carrying a mobile phone, a camera, keys, tools and sanitary towels. It was also revealed that the balaclava was a pair of women’s underwear.

Later, in custody, he was also found to be wearing a woman’s thong and a sports bra.

Meanwhile, images were found on the mobile phone and camera of Marie in bedrooms, dressed again in women’s underwear and performing sex acts on himself.

Detectives charged Marie with assault and going equipped and launched an investigation, involving newspaper coverage, to trace the bedrooms where the footage was filmed.

One house in the images was found to be the home of a woman and her 15-year-old daughter, whose bedroom Marie had filmed himself in.

Richard Haworth, prosecuting, said Marie was heard to say: “I hope you don’t mind me borrowing your underwear. They smell nice.”

The court was read impact statements from four of Marie’s victims, including the 15-year-old.

Nicholas Clarke, defending, said Marie’s pursuits were “entirely solo” and he had spoken to psychiatrists in a bid to “understand himself”.

Judge Stuart Baker said: “This is one of the most complex and difficult to understand cases that I have confronted in my period of service on the bench.

“Your victims undoubtedly regard you as being a dangerous man within the community and the sort of dangerous person that will give them every reason to be careful or worry when things go bump in the night.

“It is behaviour that anyone is bound to find chilling.” (continues)

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/4390490.Cross_dressing_Burnley_and_Padiham_burglar_jailed_indefinitely/

I had a neighbour who used to wank in his window when I went to bed.

I requested horizontal slatty blinds for my bedroom for similar reasons: there was a topless (or worse! thankfully his windowsill concealed him from the waist down) man who would stare at me out of his bedroom window when I was getting dressed pre-puberty. We didn't have nets and I didn't like pulling the curtain over and shutting all the natural light out (possibly an early indication of my SAD). Old-fashioned 60W filament bulbs don't dispel the darkness, they just turn it yellow.

Anyone thinking "just pull the curtain, get over it" is ignoring that we are talking about a grown man sexually intimidating a little girl. Anyone who stares at a child getting dressed is a pervert, end of.

To a previous poster - think you mean this brave and stunning murderer Clare Darbyshire? Clare had a previous conviction for breaking into a house and wanking into a teenage girl's underwear.

www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-35774143

Me too^ I still hang out my knickers, maybe I shouldn't
I had a neighbour who used to wank in his window when I went to bed. When I went to shut the curtains, there he was, most nights. Wearing his wife's dresses hitched up I must have been around 13 when it started.
I have no idea why we didn't call the police!

multiple different pairs of women’s pants in the secluded areas. They are clearly being nicked from the gardens that back on to this area

OMG and I just thought my mum and aunt were being prudish when they told me not to dry my knickers outside. I'm having a knicker census when I get home, to see if any have fallen victim.

Shame on you Mumsnet for having an entire thread dedicated to kink shaming . . . . .

There’s a local beauty spot where I walk the dogs where we regularly stumble on multiple different pairs of women’s pants in the secluded areas. They are clearly being nicked from the gardens that back on to this area and then taken away for outdoor wankfodder. It’s disgusting.
Also puts me in fear of being in those areas on my own. So thanks to these thieving fetishising wankers, women’s access to outdoor physical exercise and freedom of movement is also curtailed..

I think an awful lot of women will have stories like ours, dance - and the majority will never be reported. It's just something women 'deal with' ? We're socialised not to make a fuss.

And yet we know these crimes escalate over time. And we know that police don't take them seriously.

When I think of the police time spent on that other thread here: the "so the police..." one - it makes me angry. All that police time spent on 'friends' having an argument over "TWAW"