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"Feminism is equality"

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MrGHardy · 09/08/2018 17:06

This is a response by a woman to a man talking about feminism:

"Your understanding is wrong. Where does everyone get this idea that feminism is some kind of for-all happy umbrella? It's for the equality of women vis-a-vis men. And men, Mr. Read, don't get to decide what feminism is."

I have come across this so often recently, where feminism is portrayed as "for equality so it is also for men" etc. and this Twitter user used a good phrase: "some kind of for-all happy umbrella".

I think it's a deliberate misrepresentation of feminism, in order to distract the discussion away from the issues, away from women, and to paint women in a bad light as some sort of female supremacists if they disagree with the idea, feminism is equality for all i.e. also for men. The idea "feminism is for women does not imply it is not for equality" seems also hard for people to understand and is easily misrepresented.

How do you deal with this? If you constantly have to first convince people that feminism is not for men, not a blanket "for-all happy umbrella", it gets very frustrating and distracts from the issue at hand (and instead leads to a debate about what feminism is, and what its goals are and who it is for). Additionally, as a man you are quickly accused of mansplaining (especially by women who for some reason believe that feminism is also for men) or at least asked for a definition which is a) difficult to do for me b) at least in my case necessarily leads to accusations of mansplaining.

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thebewilderness · 09/08/2018 22:36

It was part of the backlash against women's rights and Feminism.
While the corporate interests were turning women's liberation into a marketing tool the op ed writers were mansplaining that Feminism should be about equality for everyone, expressing the 5th rule of misogyny: Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
My response is simply that Feminism is the political movement for the liberation of women. People who prioritize men are MRAs, not feminists. Odd that people get them confused, innit.