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Channel 4 appoints a new advisor on inclusion

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BarrackerBarmer · 09/08/2018 13:20

www.channel4.com/info/press/news/channel-4-appoints-sue-pascoe-as-advisor-on-inclusion-x

Sue Pascoe, who 4 years ago was Graham, and who said "that while a man, he was the embodiment of the all-action, red-bloodied alpha male."
Of course, by 2015, this evolved to "'It's funny, I'm 55, I am very hormonal, I am going through puberty again which means that I am just getting to my teenage girl years - so watch out world."

Perhaps those teenage girl years have been outgrown now that Pascoe is 58. Here's hoping.

I'm not convinced this will result in a better proportion of those of us who are female being represented though.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3163747/Master-Hunt-woman-age-54-marks-day-man-going-bowling-enjoying-burger-sons.html

Wouldn't it be nice if some of the recent 'inclusivity' appointments actually included women? By which I mean, the old fashioned ACTUALLY underrepresented, female type human.

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IAmInsignificunt · 09/08/2018 16:23

What about women and girls?

placemats · 09/08/2018 16:22

I have never understood cross dressing seeing as I, a woman, who is an adult human female, have always worn trousers, t shirts, shirts, a tie when in school, brogues, big knickers - aka boxer shorts. Why, when I wear a dress, am I not seen then as cross dressing?

Datun · 09/08/2018 16:22

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happygolurkey · 09/08/2018 16:22

Has Little OJ shared his thoughts yet? I always have the faint hope that there will eventually be a case that pushes him over the edge
I keep hoping too hackmum. I know it's an unpopular thing to say round here but i've always had a lot of time for him. i'm disappointed that he seems blinkered on this. i would expect him to support trans cause, of course (as i do) but I would have thought he would be more sympathetic to the effects on women

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 16:20

What a surprise...middle aged white men wheedling their way into positions they have done fuck all to deserve.

Wheedling their way in after they have enjoyed all the power and advantage and privilege a white man can expect.

stillathing · 09/08/2018 16:20

I've also had my post deleted. It's a bit upsetting and I'm not really sure why. I expressed finding it offensive that a middle aged person who had been socialised and gone through puberty as a male bodied individual could claim to be experiencing female teenage puberty. My experience of puberty was marked by the various intrusions of men.

iamawoman · 09/08/2018 16:19

Feeling like a teenage girl is part of the sexual thrill though isn't it. Some of the ex wives need to go public on these agp males....

Datun · 09/08/2018 16:18

Master of the Hunt'!!! jolly ho! good to see that, along with the exclusive boys school educated Munroe Bergdof and Lily Madigan, and Free Mason lodge master Edward Lord,

... and Cambridge educated Jesse Bradley.

You honestly couldn't make it up.

R0wantrees · 09/08/2018 16:18

Sue Pascoe's parliamentary evidence:
"All my treatment was in line with Indian laws and regulations and safeguards, but it was also entirely in line with the World Health Organization’s standards of care for transgender patients, which is a synthesis of all the best practices around the world and is significantly different from the NHS guidelines.

I am very pleased with what happened and the reality is I had no choice. If I had had to wait for two and a half years to five years, I would not have made it. I know so many transgender people who, at one point in their lives, have attempted suicide. The figures are shocking: between 30% and 70%, dependent upon what other issues you face. I sit in a category that has a 70% suicide rate, so I am very pleased to be here. I did whatever it took to get my operation done in a timely basis to go forward with my life"

One is that, for the rest of my life, one of the things that I would really like to do is try to help other transgender people; I am in the process of establishing a charity called Gender Care UK to try to get donations to help pay for people’s operations and get past the pragmatic problems that we have in the NHS. I was looking for a platform to get some publicity and talk about transgender issues and Gender Care UK. I arranged a press release with a media consultant and ended up with press all over the world. I did not really like being called a “foxy lady” in the Sun; I quite liked being called a “dead ringer” for Caitlyn Jenner in the Mirror, but I took control of it. I approved the press release before it went out and, to date, everything that has happened around me has been hugely positive."

Sue Pascoe launched Gender Care UK Charity in September 2015 at Miss Transgender UK
www.facebook.com/Gcareuk-606464232829538/

"A big thank you to Miss Transgender UK and OLMEC The Premier Transgender Surgery Institute for their support of Gender Care UK"

"The Prizes

The winner of Miss Transexual UK 2015 will receive a prize of £5000 cash

the first prize will be presented by Sue Pascoe representing OMELC the premier transgender surgery institute

Whats more, we were delighted to announce that today, Sue is launching the gender care charity, created to help disadvantaged transgender people get financial and emotional support with the aim of helping them to come home to their true identities . Helping them to be the best that they can be and paving the way forwards to a life of truth, and fulfilment .

The winner will be awarded a voucher for full gender correction surgery in india inclusive of all hospital , travel and accommodation cost worth over £10,000"

The info at Charities Commission is a bit confusing as the CIO document doesn't seem available
CIO - FOUNDATION Registered 22 Sep 2016
Sue Pascoe is listed as trustee on the year end document and as the public address but not under the 'people' trustees section.
GCAREUK
Income and expenditure
for the period from 22 September 2016 to 31 March 2017
As per the Trustees report, the Charity was financially dormant during the period ended 31 March 2017.
Any costs incurred were paid for by the Trustees personally.
No Balance Sheet has been prepared as no transactions have taken place.

beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1169316&subid=0

The Facebook is active but I can't see the website

Channel 4 appoints a new advisor on inclusion
LangCleg · 09/08/2018 16:18

It's just that most people don't have to think about it all. Until they do.

This.

Datun · 09/08/2018 16:15

People absolutely know. Cross dressing isn't, and never had been, a secret.

It's almost been considered a fairly benign, quite British, fetish. Albeit furtive and a little grubby. The sort of thing that balding bank managers get up to when the wife is up the shops.

What it has never been considered is aspirational, brave, stunning, or the embodiment of being a woman.

It's just that most people don't have to think about it all. Until they do.

Melamin · 09/08/2018 16:15

Living your life in a fantasy, whether sexually motivated or not, is never going to end well.

I've know middle aged men leave their family and set up with an OW in America after one meeting and an internet relationship, buy a sports car where you have to pay extra for the steering wheel (I know) before losing his job and scudding off to another woman, present a wife of 20 odd years with the option of staying in an open marriage whilst he has affairs with multiple women (and by that I mean a lot in anyone's book). They just seem to feel entitled to something more, and leave the job half done with the DC.

happygolurkey · 09/08/2018 16:14

'Master of the Hunt'!!! jolly ho! good to see that, along with the exclusive boys school educated Munroe Bergdof and Lily Madigan, and Free Mason lodge master Edward Lord, we now have another representative for the down trodden and oppressed transgender community up there championing their cause.

hackmum · 09/08/2018 16:13

Has Little OJ shared his thoughts yet? I always have the faint hope that there will eventually be a case that pushes him over the edge. Obviously it's not going to be Jess "penis" Bradley but it might be Sue "master of foxhounds" Pascoe.

Channel 4 is publicly-owned (though not publicly-funded). Does that mean it's worth complaining about this decision?

terryleather · 09/08/2018 16:11

What infuriates me is pretending it's anything other than what it is. And I never will.

I stand with you Datun.

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld · 09/08/2018 16:10

Or indeed giving up all hope of influential positions at Channel 4.

gendercritter · 09/08/2018 16:09

Funny how getting in touch with one's feminine side always involves wearing women's underwear and growing breasts and not taking on the care of an older relative or opting to have less of a voice in society.

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 16:09

I honestly do think that the "silent majority" know perfectly well the emperor has no clothes; they just don't (yet) realise why it matters.

THIS

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 16:08

Almost no one I know in real life would ever acknowledge that this person is anything other than stunning and brave and a great person for the job of inclusion advisor.

We must move in very different circles! Apart from a couple of wokesters I would say the exact opposite.

terryleather · 09/08/2018 16:08

For all of us and especially for Sloth

Channel 4 appoints a new advisor on inclusion
TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld · 09/08/2018 16:08

Almost no one I know in real life would ever acknowledge that this person is anything other than stunning and brave and a great person for the job of inclusion advisor

Get new friends? (Sorry!)

Seriously - I think 80% or more of the people in the country won't give it a second thought - won't even bother reading an article about it - and if they did, they would think unkind thoughts about Pascoe's appearance. I honestly do think that the "silent majority" know perfectly well the emperor has no clothes; they just don't (yet) realise why it matters.

OldCrone · 09/08/2018 16:07

Mesmac. Under people on this page, Susan Pascoe is listed as a trustee.
beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1040407&subid=0

placemats · 09/08/2018 16:07

Honestly how can ANYONE not see what cases like this really are? It’s baffling. Almost no one I know in real life would ever acknowledge that this person is anything other than stunning and brave and a great person for the job of inclusion advisor. Could it be that we are the crazy ones?

You win the award for the best Oscar Wilde's sarcasm post. Brilliant and incisive. Yeh!

Datun · 09/08/2018 16:06

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Melamin · 09/08/2018 16:06

Could it be that we are the crazy ones? No.

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