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Channel 4 appoints a new advisor on inclusion

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BarrackerBarmer · 09/08/2018 13:20

www.channel4.com/info/press/news/channel-4-appoints-sue-pascoe-as-advisor-on-inclusion-x

Sue Pascoe, who 4 years ago was Graham, and who said "that while a man, he was the embodiment of the all-action, red-bloodied alpha male."
Of course, by 2015, this evolved to "'It's funny, I'm 55, I am very hormonal, I am going through puberty again which means that I am just getting to my teenage girl years - so watch out world."

Perhaps those teenage girl years have been outgrown now that Pascoe is 58. Here's hoping.

I'm not convinced this will result in a better proportion of those of us who are female being represented though.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3163747/Master-Hunt-woman-age-54-marks-day-man-going-bowling-enjoying-burger-sons.html

Wouldn't it be nice if some of the recent 'inclusivity' appointments actually included women? By which I mean, the old fashioned ACTUALLY underrepresented, female type human.

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placemats · 09/08/2018 17:15

I know so many transgender people who, at one point in their lives, have attempted suicide. The figures are shocking: between 30% and 70%, dependent upon what other issues you face. I sit in a category that has a 70% suicide rate, so I am very pleased to be here. I did whatever it took to get my operation done in a timely basis to go forward with my life"

So having a shed load of money to go to India and having your surgery, all put up in social media, at the tender teenage years of mid fifties, pulled you out of this horrendous suicidal ideation? Sounds like a Conservative political broadcast to me.

Meanwhile in the real world, the NHS is crumbling under lack of funding by the current DUP/Conservative government.

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/08/2018 17:15

I am quite surprised they had surgery, which is unusual for this type? But perhaps it was only facial surgery. Either way still unusual

The linked video upthread indicated that there were several surgeries. The doctor, I think, said the genital surgery came last.

hipsterfun · 09/08/2018 17:11

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Datun · 09/08/2018 17:11

Oops that made sense right after my other post!

Datun · 09/08/2018 17:10

I mean everyone already knows.

All the feminists know, the transsexuals on here know, the wives know, the children know, the medical profession knows, the lesbians know, all the men with gender dysphoria know. India Willoughby knows!

Cigarstring · 09/08/2018 17:09

It almost seems like a secret society. It puts the Freemasons to shame and makes them look amateurish.

madja · 09/08/2018 17:09

Teenage girl at 58 Hmm

hipsterfun · 09/08/2018 17:09

I thought we had reached a consensus that male mid-life crises were pathetic and laughable. Now they’re brave and inspiring?

Right first time.

R0wantrees · 09/08/2018 17:09

I have a pop up advert along this thread for 'Botched' the celebrity plastic surgeons' show! Hmm

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/08/2018 17:08

Susan Stephanie Pascoe is listed as a Director of Yorkshire MESMAC in Companies House

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/WdrtmPjW7O6XMpIzFxC5qReX7tE/appointments

Also entries for Graham Pascoe, Graham Stephen Pascoe, Graham Pascoe Associates, Sue Graham Pascoe all with the same birthdate.

R0wantrees · 09/08/2018 17:07

Did I read right that they are offering surgery as a prize????

I wonder if OMELC the premier transgender surgery institute is where Sue Pascoe had her surgery?

In both the interview with the Daily Mail and the video, Sue Pascoe promotes the sugeon and the experience of going to India.

It seems to be quite mutually beneficial.

Datun · 09/08/2018 17:06

No problem with fetish until it involves people who haven't consented

The fetish itself is misogynistic. That's my problem with it.

But if you've got it, you've got it.

It's not a social movement, an aspiration, a lifestyle, an identity or an illness.

It's a fetish. And if you have to go public with it before it sends you into a positively never ending implosion of frustration, at least acknowledge it.

hackmum · 09/08/2018 17:03

"It was really quite nice to get a letter from the NHS asking if I wanted to have a cervical cancer test"

...said no woman ever.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 09/08/2018 17:02

Different flavours of swiss cheese seem to be in fashion these days on here - but the wholey-holes are a giveaway

Cigarstring · 09/08/2018 17:00

"Became very difficult"

Yes I can imagine their poor wife catching them posing in her underwear every now and then Hmm. Poor Susie, it is so very difficult being a teenage girl these days.Confused

IAmInsignificunt · 09/08/2018 17:00

Sue didn’t transition because there would have been a financial cost. Sue waited until Sue felt the time was right - after a successful career and a long marriage.

Yet we are constantly told that waiting is impossible, that children who are not allowed to transition as early as possible will be destroyed- their lives will be not worth living and they are at huge risk of suicide.

This is a very, very good point.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 09/08/2018 17:00

How come there are so many of these types on boards or committees for this or that.

Read Lundy Bancroft re the loose sexual boundaries of entitled men - it's been in the closet until recently. Just like in the 60s/70s when there's was a sexual revolution and out it all comes - only to retreat when the backlash comes

stillathing · 09/08/2018 16:59

No problem with fetish until it involves people who haven't consented. People who are lied to cannot consent. Children cannot consent. People with no power sometimes cannot consent.

Popchyk · 09/08/2018 16:58

From the OP: "Channel 4 has appointed Sue Pascoe of Soaring Spirit Limited as an advisor on Inclusion".

Soaring Spirit Limited was set up on June 28th 2018.

So 6 weeks ago.

Only one officer. Pascoe themselves. So this company was set up specifically in order to partner with C4 looks like. No doubt Soaring Spirit will expand and be able to advise on "inclusion" throughout the media.

SlothSlothSloth · 09/08/2018 16:57

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womanformallyknownaswoman · 09/08/2018 16:57

Double yuckity yuck pleasee

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R0wantrees · 09/08/2018 16:55

MoltenLasagne

Sue Pascoe talks at length about her experiences, beliefs and opinions as a witness to the Women and Equalities Committee Transgender Equality Inquiry.

I've linked upthread.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 09/08/2018 16:54

I also note the wife gets blamed as do nameless others in childhood. But they somehow found the wherewithall to make their money first:

I told my wife before we were married that I had a feminine side to me, but she did not want it in our marriage and that became very difficult. I hid myself as Sue most of my adult life. I was made fun of when I grew up, and I knew with pretty much certainty that if I tried to come out when I was a partner in PricewaterhouseCoopers or in Andersen, that would probably be the end of my career. I had to wait for the latter part of my life to make those transitions.

Cigarstring · 09/08/2018 16:53

I'm finding this story particularly upsetting. There appear to be no bounds to the ridiculousness of it all. Sad How come there are so many of these types on boards or committees for this or that. Most women I know aren't Officers of this, Chairperson of that and Boardmember of the other.

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