Channel 4 appoints a new advisor on inclusion

. A 55 year old male teenage girl.

It's sickening how many middle age men seem to have a desire to transition to a teenage girl or very young woman.
They even pick cutesy, young, inappropriate names.
Privately, I question the motives of such actions.

If a middle age man is serious about becoming a woman, surely he would aim become a middle aged woman and pick an age appropriate name.

Makes me wonder what's really going on in their minds.

To be honest I really don't think that bottom surgery should be allowed, ever, it's horrendous and leads to all sorts of complications re urinary and bowel disorders. This on adult humans. Pre teens and teenagers should be allowed for their urinary tract and their bowels to grow as they reach adulthood.

a bit of a non sequiteur

but Sue. why pick Sue?

Juno, Paris, India

Now those are names I would pick if I was in the market for one

But Sue?

cross posted there. Never mind.

yy thebewilderness. The general public are waking up to what's going on but still most don't realise about the surgery, AGPs etc. The whole nation would peak trans in seconds flat if they realised what's been going on with the girlslikeus stuff and the rifling in sanitary bins for used tampons etc.

They're not the bad guys here.

No one is suggesting that the mods are the "bad guys".
I am suggesting that some appear to be uninformed and inattentive.
Not an unusual circumstance in any business.

So, if 100 posts to a page that makes nine deletions on page 1 and 2 deletions on page 2.

Fairly normal.

That song Sue is misogynist.

Is a couple of years as a transwoman really enough to qualify someone as a diversity expert?*

What about all the people who have been women/ethic minorities/disabled people for their whole lives? Would they not been better qualified to talk about diversity Channel 4?

This.

But they're just boring disadvantaged people without a fantastic glittery brave stunning I Am What I Am unicorn to ride in on innit?

Oh come on, I think MNHQ understand very well about brigading.

We're doing our best (under rather difficult circumstances) to let these conversations happen - please help us out!

They're not the bad guys here. Thanks for allowing the conversation to continue JoanneMumsnet

placemats,

I expect this thread is being watched.

V E R Y C A R E F U L L Y

I suppose that like Facebook some mods operate on the basis of what we are accused of rather than what we actually said if there are enough reports. We explained brigading but I do not think all of the mods grasped how it is being applied here.

I think you're right.

I suppose that like Facebook some mods operate on the basis of what we are accused of rather than what we actually said if there are enough reports. We explained brigading but I do not think all of the mods grasped how it is being applied here.

When they say "some cisgender people will radically narrow the terms male and female" to half the human population, who do you suppose they imagine themselves to be talking to?

Interesting comment by MN: The bottom line is, referring to a transwoman who has had gender reassignment surgery as 'he' is inevitably going to draw reports, so in an effort to create a more civil and mutually respectful conversation, we're asking you to please use an individual's name or initials where possible.

They told me off for 'misgendering' (even though I hadn't) a person who has not had gender reassignment surgery.

Well, I can't quote Shon re her beauty standards because that would get me deleted. Irony much on a thread about trans women.

Oh I've just looked up Johnny Cash. He was a white, rich USain male.

I agree Joanne

Keep this thread up. It's incredibly interesting.

Beautifuldog My female brain is not confused at all. Who is Johnny Cash btw?

hipster I wish they would!

they-who-must-be-obeyed must be obeyed...

Perhaps people are just a bit confused on this particular case, Joanne. You know, because of the Johnny Cash song.

@JoanneMumsnet, have MNHQ considered taking the Freedom Programme ‘Fuck this’ approach to these reporters?

Shon Faye describes herself as a transsexual on instagram

Shon Faye has recently been tweeting about identity.

I am wondering if Sue Pascoe's charity Gender Care UK (GCareUK) raised & distributed any money as intended.

The only reference I can see is that it on Total Giving.
its possible that this site sweeps the information from the Charities Commission rather than it being actively registered there.
www.totalgiving.co.uk/charity/gcareuk

Aside from the grand launch which promoted GCareUK, OLMEC (& Sue Pascoe?) there doesn't seem to much said or done.

Maybe there was a change of plan.