BBC Children In Need withdraws funding from Glasgow rape crisis centre for 'not doing enough for men and boys'

I will never give a penny to Children in Need ever again

In fact, I've stopped giving to all big charities except Water Aid and women's charities like Rape Crisis and Refuge, on the basis that they're probably all run by rapists and if they aren't, they're probably giving most of the money I donate to men

Fuck em

I see that CIN is being asked questions about its grants to Allsorts, on Twitter.

Good. Funding, endorsements and encouragement of dubious practices around children's exploration of gender, may come to bite them on the bottom.

I've now found the information on the Trustees and see that they include presenter Matt Baker and journalist (and brownie pack leader) Rosie Millard

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/W4gl45JwK5mtJxSfDXnPKX/our-trustees

CIN no longer has my support. There'll be no angry TRA response to the 'women and girls' emphasis in the Whitton statement because it's designed to placate, undermine and distract feminists while money is shifted to TRA support from vulnerable teenage girls.

I hope this is picked up by the fail or times

CIN no longer has my support

The problem is local authorities don't give out grants anymore, they commission services to strict specifications, which may not be exactly what charities want to provide based on their knowledge of needs. Trusts and foundations enable organisations to determine their own services and be more innovative. Trouble is there isn't enough money to go around, public sector cuts have reduced income and increased demand, and Lottery income, one of the main funders of the voluntary sector has also gone down.

Should women's and girl's services have to rely on unelected unaccountable charities for handouts?

Very good point.

Should women's and girl's services have to rely on unelected unaccountable charities for handouts?

Perhaps if Local Authorities, Police Authorities and NHS Commissioning Units ditched their 'gender' priority and actually looked at how they are serving the "sex" group, then women might get their fair share of grants.

Incidentally, CIN's website is not transparent. I don't know who staffs it, how many people are employed there, who the trustees are or how they arrive at decisions. Basic stuff for a multi-million charity taking millions from millions of donors and fundraisers.

CIN are giving hundreds of thousands to children who doubt their gender, but none who have experienced sexual violence and rape on account of their sex

Pretty much sums it up doesn't it.

Their statement says nothing at all about their reasons for defunding an important service for women & girls.

It will be interesting to see what CiN have decided to fund instead when they publish this year's list. I've sure there are a great many worthy projects, but according to media reports the project they put in jeopardy was run by Glasgow Rape Crisis to provide face to face support to teenage girls and to do rape prevention work in schools. I'm really struggling to imagine how such a project could find itself too far down the list.

So basically CIN are giving hundreds of thousands to children who doubt their gender, but none who have experienced sexual violence and rape on account of their sex

The easiest way to support children who doubt their gender is to explain that people can be whoever they want to be, wear what they want and call out the bullies who enforce stereotypes, as well as address the hierarchies between the sexes and the way these are enforced (of which rape and sexual violence is a key one).

But nope, somehow it is better to promote practices where young women bind their breasts and seek hormone treatments to delay puberty, and withdraw funding from charities that address the sex-based problems women face.

Funny that.

From the Scottish Daily Mail, 9.8.18 -

“The centre, founded in 1976, aims to provide support for girls aged 13 and over who have been raped, sexually assaulted or sexually abused at any point during their life.
It was the first centre of its kind to be set up north of the Border and the longest established rape crisis unit in the UK. Last year it worked with more than 1,700 women and received nearly 20,000 calls, texts and emails.

Over the past six years it has received £235,000 from Children in Need, which was used to hire a specialist offering support to young victims of sexual violence.”

The link below sets out the CIN grant-funded projects in Scotland ‘as at November 2017’.

It’s not clear (to me, at least) if the figures listed refer to all funding ever given by CIN to each charity, or if it’s just 2017 figures? For Rape Crisis Glasgow the figure listed is £135,222.

downloads.bbc.co.uk/tv/pudsey/grants/CN0187_Grants_Listings_Scotland.pdf

Times today:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rape-charity-shuts-waiting-list-over-cuts-bb93nqjvl?shareToken=3585380b757ee484264061a00635ca19

mobile.twitter.com/BBCCiN/status/1027580373209890818
This is the tweet with BBC CIN’s clear as mud statement on.

I think it would be interesting to know who is behind this withdrawal of funding. Similarly a woman's counselling service in brighton has to close because of funding cuts as it doesn't include men !!

^ That was all my bolding above BTW

I find organisations that interchange ‘sex’ and ‘gender’ very confusing to know what they are really meaning- everyone in these organisations clearly DOES know there is a difference between biological sex and how you present yourself because they have eyes, ears and a brain... but instead they pretend not to see, hear or know what the majority of their fundraising donors in the population,(many of whom are very small children at school), will observe as the everyday reality of sexed physical difference which affects everyone. And is a fact regardless of anyone’s personal presentation. FFS.

Sexed physical difference, weaponised by gender, is obviously WHY girls and women desperately need Rape Crisis Scotland.

So when funders pretend not to know the difference between sex and gender, it makes it very very hard for anyone to decode what they actually are even referring to, much less understand how this issue is actually affecting their funding decisions.

That public statement doesn’t actually explain the reasons why the charity’s funding application was rated lower than other applications.

The charity or someone else could make a FOI request for the scores/reasons.

Is it because men who have been raped by men would rather be in the company of women?

I work with sexual violence services. IME value a men-only service (although lots of the staff are women) because it makes them feel not so alone and not the only one. Being somewhere that is aimed at them is better than being the only man in a room full of women. The issues are different for both sexes.

The statement that is making BBC CIN ‘sad’ is only on their Twitter not their website -they don’t seem to have any news or press releases section on the BBC CIN website- (poor transparency) but here it is:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/Y1vmpjYlzhw9grzSXr5wPP/glasgow-and-clyde-rape-crisis

(Pasted in full, hope that’s OK):

Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis
There have been a number of news reports today regarding Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis, a project we have been pleased to fund since 2012 and would welcome to apply to us again in the future.

Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis’ three-year grant from BBC Children in Need recently came to the end. They were able to submit a new application for funding for an additional three years, but after being considered by an independent assessor and the grants Committee for Scotland, were unsuccessful.

Contrary to reports in the news, this decision was in no way connected to the lack of support for male victims. We absolutely recognise the value of gender specific services in this vital area of work. This is why we funded Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis originally.

Ultimately, although the public are extremely generous in their support each year, within every grant round there are considerably more projects to fund than funds available and we simply don’t have the money to fund all of the projects that apply to us for grants. Our Committees have to make some really difficult decisions about which projects should be funded.

In this grant round BBC Children in Need received almost £3.5 million worth of applications for Scotland, with a budget of £1.8 million to spend. Inevitably the committee has to make some difficult decisions and although Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis’ latest grant application was fully assessed, it was unsuccessful simply because we don’t have the money to fund all of the projects that apply to us for grants.

Charities are invited to apply to us for grants of up to three years, most complete their project in the timescale, some are successful with continuation funding, but it is made clear that any further funding cannot be guaranteed. With the scale of demand, inevitably our voluntary committees have to make some really tough decisions.

Despite the Great British public’s kindness and generosity, applications for funding always outweigh the funding available. Turning down applications from organisations doing great work is very difficult and that is what drives us on to raise as much money as possible each year.

So, our decision not to award a third grant to Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis was not based on not working with male victims - we see and fully support the value of work with girls and young women who have experienced rape and sexual abuse. As a charity, we are proud to support a number of projects across that UK that specifically work to support female survivors of sexual abuse.

And we are also incredibly proud to be able to fund 313 projects to a value of £18.8 million in Scotland which go on to impact on the lives of children and young people, and will continue to work tirelessly to continue to make a difference.

These are tough times for many children and young people in the UK and where we can we want to be there to help them.

Anna Whitton
Director of Impact, BBC Children in Need

While obviously it is great that the Scottish govt has stepped in that is with emergency funding- the BBC CIN Grant is reported as a three year grant so the govt funding isn’t a like -for-like replacement.
www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/scottish-government-pledges-35000-funding-15010160

beta.gov.scot/news/funding-for-rape-crisis/

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-45137638

In which ^ article BBC Children in Need were quoted as saying:

^CiN said it had helped fund the service since 2012 but did not have enough money to grant all applications.
It also denied reports that the group was turned down because it did not do enough support male survivors of abuse.^
In a statement it said: "Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis' three-year grant recently came to the end of its term, and their subsequent application for new funding was unsuccessful.
"This decision was in no way connected to the support of male victims, we award grants to charities regardless of gender."

.. gender?

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/2mRFsclbG1GkGK5LBynJP47/contact-us

This explains the results of the Pink News "we rang women's shelters and they all said they were happy to offer their services to transwomen"

What else are they going to say? You either publicly renounce the right of women to female only spaces or you are labelled (counter revolutionary) transphobic and destroyed.

Shame on you CIN and BBC, you're a fucking disgrace.

Yet again men showing that they will never support women, despite all the support women give men.

@PyeWackeyd asked whether CIN provides grants to Mermaids.

from a post by jgrobinson; (thanks jgrob)

BBC Children in Need currently spend £450k on transgender programmes:

£125,861 Mermaids
£115,953 Gendered Intelligence
£91,353 Leicester LGBT Centre
£74,541 Allsorts Youth Project
£30,000 The Proud Trust
£16,580 Hart Gables Tees Valley
£454,288 Total

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/psvxkB6QDMK63pgHmP5RJF/who-you-help

Noticed this too bd67th I've been trying to donate unsuccessfully for the past half hour..thought it was my shite broadband!

I immediately donated to RCG upon hearing this yesterday, and will never again give money to BBC CiN.

Glad the Scottish Government have stepped in, but charities (and the Scottish Gov) need to have a long hard think about where this mindset of "equality", when we still have so much oppression to be tackled first, is taking them, and who it's helping.