Goat dies after violent attack by men **Title edited by MNHQ - distressing article in OP post**

www.icenews.is/2015/04/29/denmark-to-clamp-down-on-animal-sex-tourism/

www.thedailybeast.com/denmarks-bestiality-problem-its-legal

I see the usual "not all men do this, so we mustn't talk about how it's pretty much exclusively men who do this" brigade have sent over a representative.

I'm of the belief that it's more nurture than nature that results in so many men's sexualities being warped to the point where they derive sexual pleasure from torturing other living creatures. Let's hope so, because if it's innate our species is doomed. The way we raise boys can at least potentially be changed.

www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pregnant-goat-dies-after-8-men-gang-raped-it-in-haryana-1299168-2018-07-28

Google is your friend. Not sure why you wouldn't believe it though? Bestiality is a common perversion. And animals are "prostituted" even in Europe, legally in some places iirc. Diectly under the article it links to another man who raped a puppy.

The station incharge of Nagina Rajbir Singh said that they are investigating the case.

I don’t believe this story happened. There’s no evidence, just a picture of s dead goat. Not even the full name of the person who reported them. I can’t believe people even believe this story. So many holes in this tall tale.

Yes the press do make up stories!

Official crime statistics may change if transwomen are counted as "women" instead of as men, or separately.

So if there is a change, we need to analyse it to counter probable media hype that "women" have become much more violent & sexually violent.

This is possibly the thing that worries me most about self ID. If we can't even name the problem any more then we are well and truly stuffed.

It’s horrific. And inexcusable. Changing the thread title doesn’t change the utterly horrible shit that goes on every day to animals, to women and to children caused by men so they can get their kicks. Not all men, but too many men.

So it seems it is not just a tiny untypical minority of men distorting the statistics

Nope.

Lots of men, and because most men aren't obvious psychopaths it's a lot of "normal" men walking around.

As well as far greater propensity to wish to commit violence, esepcially sexual violence,
the generally much physically stronger sex is better able to commit crimes of violence against the generally physically weaker sex

Official crime statistics may change if transwomen are counted as "women" instead of as men, or separately.

So if there is a change, we need to analyse it to counter probable media hype that "women" have become much more violent & sexually violent.

Surely there can't be that many men in the locality who have mental illness that manifests itself in being attracted to goats in particular.

Like most sexual violence, it is an expression of power over someone / something else and a joy in inflicting pain & fear on the helpless.

98% of sexual convictions in the UK are committted by men and 85% of all serious crime.

What % of men are committing all these crimes ?
Surveys in various countries have found a surprisingly large minority, usually 20% + of men, would either commit rape if they had the opportunity, or had already done so.

DV is distressingly common, even in countries like the UK which supposedly already have equality and hence, we keep being told, "no more need for feminism"

So it seems it is not just a tiny untypical minority of men distorting the statistics

They are artificially inseminated I don't think that's the same as raped by 8 men until death though. Still disgusting yes, and no, most people don't understand that and still aren't mind getting off on the idea of raping an animal to death.

A conversation about the ethics of meat from a feminist angle would be interesting and does occasionally pop up here but I don't think it's helpful to combine the two threads when they are so clearly unrelated.

What depresses me almost as much as male violence itself is when even decent men try and wave it away as nothing to do with them. It is to do with them. It is their class committing - what are the figures, 90% of violent crime and 98% of sexual crime? I don't listen in or try and intrude on all-male conversations but I do wonder whether they ever sit around and ask themselves what's going on.

I would assume like most hardcore porn and prostitution that the women are coerced.

I once saw an interview with a distraught woman crying because she'd been made to do one of those. The men asking for those videos are sick and disgusting. They are definitely a response to a male demand, organised by men with young women scarred for life acting out their perverted requests.

They are raped if some are vegan i thought they would have known

I dont want to read it but we all let animals suffer for their tasty meat anyway

Some of us vegetarian or vegan. Carnivores don't usually rape the animal before eating it.

I dont want to read it but we all let animals suffer for their tasty meat anyway

Men are also the majority of victims too, I believe

Indeed they are- in the vast majority of cases at the hands of other men.

I wouldn't feel any better if my mild-mannered bookworm of a son was beat up by another man. In fact, I'd rather a woman attacked him as had have a better chance of escaping serious injury/defending himself

And I have no idea what point you are trying to make here.

There's something really wrong with a lot of men.

I wouldn't feel any better if my mild-mannered bookworm of a son was beat up by another man. In fact, I'd rather a woman attacked him as had have a better chance of escaping serious injury/defending himself.

@UptonSnodbury violence caused by other men. Male violence is "woke" and doesn't discriminate..women,children,other men..goats.

Men are also the majority of victims too, I believe, which must be quite intimidating for non violent men. Especially as people don't usually step in to help men.

No one is denying women can be violent but no one can deny the vast majority of violence and cruelty is perpetrated by men.

In the case of violence and cruelty perpetrated by women the reaction is usually "how could a woman do that/ how could a mother do that?" (I will admit to thinking that). This in itself just highlights how unusual such behaviour is and the fact that society , in general, expects better behaviour from women.

I say "expects" not in the sense that society has imposed higher standards on women but that women by their own behaviour have given rise to such an assumption.

Ahh I see we already had the "but..but..women" and "shame on you for not keeping this stuff hidden" and NAMALT.

BULLSHIT!!

Male violence is a thing. It happens every day,every hour all over the world. It's not "people" or "humans" being awful..it has a name! MALE VIOLENCE.