Goat dies after violent attack by men **Title edited by MNHQ - distressing article in OP post**

Seems to have happened in India.

Indeed, if one was looking to invest that might be a good suggestion. Hand cream too.

Women have had to fight to be recognised as fully human before the law.

So you're telling me that women made men implement these laws, or could there have been another reason that men are happy to punish men for crimes against women ?

My favorite since I was a child is Mary Somerville.
I am not surprised that an MRA would be ignorant of the fact that we do talk about these women here on FWR fairly often and so we do indeed know the names of women who were self taught because they were not allowed in the schools. The same schools that used their work to teach the boys and men.

Apropos of nothing, it's my belief that Kleenex will never go out of business.

why would men bother to prosecute any crimes against women?

Prior to feminists women campaigning for laws to prosecute crimes against women, women were largely viewed as the property of men. Rape = damaging or unlawfully taking the 'property' of men. Women have had to fight to be recognised as fully human before the law.

Poor Steve, not only is he dead but now some angry little man has stolen his specs.

I'll ask again as it maybe was missed :

If it were true that men collectively benefit from a bunch of sick freaks in India raping and murdering a goat, or indeed any other display of male violence, then why would men bother to prosecute any crimes against women ?

So women should basically shut up and put up and be eternally grateful to men? Is that it?

Everyone knows NAMALT...it just gets fucking boring saying NAMALT, when we know NAMALT

And yet on this thread we have :

^I just don't know what is wrong with men. And there is something very, very wrong with them - so many of them are evil to the point of demonic. It has got to the stage where, if you hear or read about a genuinely GOOD man, it is a shocking thing.

If I were a man I would be so ashamed of my sex.^

Ashamed to be a man. It follows that men should also be collectively proud of, the Union Pacific say - or maybe the National Grid as a different example of male industry that massively benefits women.

For the record - i had no problem with the thread title.

That doesn't change the fact that men came up with pretty much all of the good stuff

Oh good lord

Although i could be being unfair

when you said not all men like fucking goats did you mean they dont want to put their penis in a goat

Or they really don't like goats...the stupid fucking animals

Disclaimer : i dont think goats are stupid

As pointed out earlier there was a litany of fucking awful crimes against women, children and animals all concurrently reported in the news and very nearly all committed by men. Not all men but too many men. If men weren’t committing these horrific crimes we wouldn’t be talking about them in the context of very nearly all terrible violent crime being committed by men and there being far too much of it. Today I read s woman has been hospitalised through a sex attack in a children’s play park. I suppose the existence of the Magna Carta cancels this out ffs.

bd67th

I suspect you have no idea about the history of computing or without googling would be able to name any of the men or women who actually make this conversation possible. There are lots of women working in the tech industry and being very successful in, there always have been. That doesn't change the fact that men came up with pretty much all of the good stuff, your theory that women who did not want to stay working in the industry would have invented C++ is going to be hard to prove really.

I am always particularly amused by MRAs who mansplain how ignorant the women here are who are historians and scientists.

'm surprised you didn't expect somebody to point out that not all men like fucking goats

I just think that people weren't expecting posters to state the bleeding obvious

Everyone knows NAMALT...it just gets fucking boring saying NAMALT, when we know NAMALT

Or NAMWTFG

This is an utterly facile statement. The very concept of "human rights" exist because men made them up.

Dale Spender wrote a book about it some years ago called "Women of Ideas and What Mn Have Done to Them"
Steve may call it facile. I call it blatantly obvious to the meanest intelligence.
The one thing male violence is not is complex. Men celebrate and glorify violence and view it as entertainment, but when women point this out and object they say not all men are like that.

Also too and besides, male violence is the greatest human rights crisis the world has ever known.

This is an utterly facile statement. The very concept of "human rights" exist because men made them up.

If it were true that men benefit from a bunch of freaks in India raping and murdering a goat, or indeed any other display of male violence, then why would men bother to prosecute any crimes against women ?

Meanwhile the women have been literally Creating All The People and packing lunches for Alexander’s forces. Perhaps it’s time to let us have a crack at it eh? The bar is fairly low, we just have to not do 98% of the violent crime right? I reckon that’s doable, despite us being all unstable and emotional and all.

So, Einsteins mother should be getting the credit ?

This argument that women would have built the union pacific (or anything else for that matter) if not for the mean men stopping them is silly and cannot be believed by any rational person.

The point about Gavin from accounts achieving chuff all is pertinent, he belongs to a class and we must look at the achievements of the class as a whole and not just at Gav.

Babelfish your post sums up the problem - compared to 99.9% of human beings who ever existed, you live a life of enormous wealth (and good health) and privilege with little or any appreciation of the millenia of struggle and invention and industry that has made it all possible, you just say it is all bag of shit and that you demand to be given the right to take it all over. It's silly.

The essence of this thread is that an awful story has been found and a chance taken to remind everyone how dangerous and awful men are. This is really no different to JihadWatch - oh look another act of terror/murder carried out by a muslim, lets catalogue them all and demonstrate how commonly muslims believe that jihad is justifiable to remind everyone that something is wrong with Muslims.

Goldenwall.

I'm surprised you didn't expect somebody to point out that not all men like fucking goats.

@Joe66 Did you even read the same thing that I wrote? I don't think you did.

You've dishonestly conflated reasoned wariness with "cowering". There isn't a woman on this planet who hasn't at some point adjusted her behaviour because she fears male violence. She might not have realised it at the time, she might voice it as "I'm frightened I might get attacked" without naming the agent, but she has. This doesn't mean that she is "cowering", so give over with putting words in my mouth.

Your list of high-achieving women doesn't disprove my point that women are and were deliberately and systematically excluded from education and various fields of endeavour. Those women succeeded despite the obstacles they faced. There would be so many more women on your list had we not been excluded. My answer was to an earlier statement that women didn't make the Union Pacific railroad: well, we didn't because women weren't allowed to be railway engineers then. It is not denigration or erasure of women achievers to acknowledge that women were purposely excluded from certain occupations, to our detriment. It is conventional history that erases women: I learn about more prominent women from Google Doodles than I ever did at school.

You missed Radia Perlman off your list. You also missed Rosalind Franklin, whose role in discovering the double helix structure of DNA was erased by men.

I never thought someone would namalt regarding the gang rape and killing of a pregnant goat. If you’ve got a problem with the discussion take it to the men that cause the discussion in the first place ffs.

2 = lots. Misogynists are bad at maths?

Or maybe lots of posters just don't agree with you...

Excellent post DanceLikeEmmaGoldman

The NAMALT bat signal has been strong today.