As I was saying about the police.....

Sturdy pyjamas is it.

I have a lock and chain at the bottom of my winceyette nightie. Done me alright so far.

Why are you centring women when you talk about sturdy pyjamas? That's appropriation! You should be ashamed of yourself for such hostility.

Sturdy pyjamas are for transgirls to wear, to prevent them being triggered by morning glories.

WTF??

It's on the guiding thread - yes, it's for real...

Aren't you the poster that believes "sturdy pyjamas" prevent assault?

WTF??

It is all fine, we are doing an Incredibly Sturdy Pyjama Upgrade soon.

We have the R&D dept on it. Like a bonnit.

Aren't you the poster that believes "sturdy pyjamas" prevent assault?

Yes, the poster is that poster avoids pronouns. That's about it really. Women's real fears of actual bodily assault are dismissed with 'wear sturdy pyjamas' by the same poster who whines that they have been attacked when a woman dares to (gasp) disagree with them!!!

Attack? What in Erishkigal's post constitutes an attack?

See, this is why anything TRA's post is rarely taken seriously - the hyperbolic deliberate misinterpretation of a straight forward sentence(s) & claiming to be 'attacked'. Does that then constitute the "increased attacks & transphobia" that's trotted out all over the place?

Aren't you the poster that believes "sturdy pyjamas" prevent assault?

Nuff said.

I'm sorry you feel the need to attack me personally and make assumptions about me.

You even admitted you don't know what you're talking about.

Eresh

Stop being so...logical. And knowing stuff. And not saying the stuff you know in a nice enough way.

Attack?

Any suicide attempt problem with trans people is not due to what women think. And even if it were, women are still allowed to think and speak about issues which affect us. We are not responsible for the psychological issues of male people. Suicide threats can be used in an abusive way. And sometimes they are even followed through on. It's never right to seek to control another person's behaviour and actions with suicide threats. It's deeply manipulative.

Ereshkigal I'm sorry you feel the need to attack me personally and make assumptions about me

She isn't. She is disagreeing with you. now where have I seen being and attached and being disagreed with confused before?

Ereshkigal I'm sorry you feel the need to attack me personally and make assumptions about me.

Is thinking something a crime, now? Do I need to guard my thoughts, as well as my words, my actions, my body, my home, my car, my cat (yes, mentioning the cat again) and my life?

Jeezeus. How's a woman supposed to do the laundry and the dishes with all THAT on her plate, too?

No it isn't. As I said. You aren't making any point. The statistics you have swallowed unquestioningly are unreliable and don't deal with completed suicide. You are creating a false picture of the truth and scaremongering about suicide. This is extremely irresponsible.

Suicide related internet use plays a significant role in CYAP suicide. Suicide contagion is a real thing.

You don't have a clue.

One of the things I feel about all this self ID crap that isn't often mentioned AFAIK is how utterly insulting & offensive it is to women. Or to me anyway. I look at pics of any of them, from Stefonknee to Muscato to Willoughby to Bergdorf and feel totally insulted.

Suicide attempts aren't the same as suicides, which is the wording you used, Dark. Self reported, self selected data about suicide attempts has considerable limitations.

I'm not getting into a nit-picky debate about precise wording. The point I'm making is clear enough.

OP i dont think you should go for a chat with the police. What is the purpose of that? Either they are investigating you or they arent. They are hoping that you will say something else, that belies ypur transphobic think8ng, so they can charge you with something. They have nothing to inveztigate as it is. They need to tell that to the idiot that reported you. And stop harrassing you

No, no crime because it's only men whose voices count.

I'm saying when you raise you voice and deliver something to someone knowing that they will find it hurtful and offensive I don't care one bloody jot how true it is. And if you do it over and over again, neither does the law, and you will have committed a crime.

Great. So all those people shouting TWAW which is incredibly hurtful and offensive to many women who have suffered for their sex are committing a crime are they?

Suicide attempts aren't the same as suicides, which is the wording you used, Dark. Self reported, self selected data about suicide attempts has considerable limitations.

Well quite. Us uppity women complaining about stuff. Just shut up and put up like you are meant to.

Proper

That's what I said

It could all be sorted if women just shut up like they're supposed to.

Look, this could all be sorted out if women were a bit...nicer