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I can't tell if the Labour leadership is anti-Semitic but their treatment of women has me finding it not hard to believe

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Movablefeast · 07/08/2018 06:04

I have been living outside the UK for many years, my parents were Labour voters and my dad was very active in local Labour politics. I can't say I have been following British politics closely except to be completely confused. It feels like the working class have actually been demonized even more since I left the country and I am not sure what or who Labour represents anymore.

No one seems to be representing the population that voted to stay in the EU, no one represents ordinary women for example and I would have no idea who to vote for in the next election. There was always a strong contingent of the working class who voted Tory, in my own family my aunt was always very strongly blue. The Tories seem to have built an image as being more for "working people" than Labour. I could never see myself voting for the Tories but I have found a number of family and friends drifting rightward mostly because of the apparent snobbery of the Labour leadership. I know this is ridiculously subjective. But I was very surprised to find that when I called home after the referendum my brother and two best female friends had all voted for Brexit.

I don't know exactly what I am asking in this thread, I guess just that it is depressing to feel unrepresented and to wonder if I am totally out of touch with my country of birth. I am confused, who does Labour represent and why is their message so confused?

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VickyEadie · 07/08/2018 10:13

Betty and Vicky I'll never vote Tory but I don't feel I have a political home when women are so disrespected. I don't understand what vision Labour has for the future, it seems fragmented.

Movablefeast My feelings in a nutshell!

I'm thinking I'll have to spoil my paper.

Movablefeast · 07/08/2018 10:09

Betty and Vicky I'll never vote Tory but I don't feel I have a political home when women are so disrespected. I don't understand what vision Labour has for the future, it seems fragmented.

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Movablefeast · 07/08/2018 10:03

Thanks Heresy I know my post was horribly incoherent but that's how I feel at the moment. I feel like after living on solid ground when younger, the tide went out and now I am stranded.

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VickyEadie · 07/08/2018 10:02

Don’t vote Tory if you value the NHS.

Correct.

gendercritter · 07/08/2018 10:02

I think a lot of people feel exactly the same op

VickyEadie · 07/08/2018 10:01

I am confused, who does Labour represent and why is their message so confused?

You're certainly not the only one. I dumped Labour because of both their attitudes to women and Brexit, having been brought up in a staunch Labour household and voted Labour all my life.

I'm now left in a position I never thought would happen - there is no party for me to vote for, because they're all in batshit land on women's issues.

Corbyn has been a total gift to the crazy fringe of the party, because he couldn't lead a conga line (he spent decades on the backbenches sniping at the leadership for a good reason - he's no leader) and is letting Momentum run riot. All that matters is what Momentum want and if you want to know why the sensible MPs aren't saying anything, it's because they fear de-selection if they do.

BettyDuMonde · 07/08/2018 10:00

Don’t vote Tory if you value the NHS.

heresyandwitchcraft · 07/08/2018 09:57

I don't have any answers or good advice OP, but just wanted to let you know you have been heard. I feel very lost politically at the moment.