People apparently support trans

But sex is a protected characteristic too

I’m one of them. I have zero issue with any person using whatever toilet they wish regardless of their genitals.

Yep this totally. Its not i dont understand the debate, i simply dont agree. Most Single sex spaces are not a hard won right for women, they were something enforced on woman by a patriarchal society. Im totally at a loss why we are so desperate to hang onto them.

Except with regard to refuges. But they are getting lost in the ridiculous argument of toilets

Like all surveys, you can get whatever answer you want by the careful selection or omission of words.
Did all the respondents understand what was meant by 'transwomen' ?

• I’m one of them. I have zero issue with any person using whatever toilet they wish regardless of their genitals.

Personally I'm not too bothered. But then, I'm a quietly assertive person who has never been subject to abuse from males. Knowing that unfortunately this is not the case for so many other women and girls, I'm of the opinion that my own comfort levels are completely irrelevant. What matters is protecting those who need protection.

PEAK no I don’t believe anyone should have the right to deny access to a person based on a protected characteristic, as much as I don’t believe people should object to someone who is gay, poc, disabled, old from using facilities based on their own personal preference.

It’s like with Brexit, innit. It sounds like fun to start with but when it’s too late then people will be like: “what? No, I didn’t vite for this! I thought I was voting for something else!”

Agree Wanderabout. Have mixed sex facilities but respect the right of women to want to keep some same sex spaces. Some spaces must be single sex, like prisons but nothing wrong with a designated trans wing.

Pinky some people are fine with penises in female loos but the vast majority of people surveyed won't know that was what was really being asked. That was the wider point being made.

Oh it's about toilets. Well that's very different to other facilities like changing rooms.

This is a consent issue. Those who want single sex loos should have that option.

Those who are happy with mixed sex can use mixed sex but not fair to say others have to just because you are OK with it.

Making men's loos mixed sex but leaving female as single sex would be an option.

Pinky but do you also believe that women do not have the right to object to someone with a penis using the same changing room or toilet as them? Just checking because the point is that the interests of trans women in wanting to use female facilities directly conflict with women’s rights to single sex spaces.

I’m one of them. I have zero issue with any person using whatever toilet they wish regardless of their genitals.

I’m not “unaware” or misinformed and won’t be changing my mind regardless of “a fully functioning penis”.

I really dislike the thinking that women can only be in support because they are silly, ignorant and misinformed, some women (the majority if you go by this poll) just don’t agree with your view.

I have no problem with legitimate fully trans people using the facilities of their chosen gender. However I believe these people are few and far between and I DO have a problem with self ID and the fact people will be allowed to chop and change as they please.

As others have said, I think a lot of people still think 'trans women' means the old school transsexuals who've been quietly sharing toilets for years, have had surgery and who have been at risk historically for mostly homophobic type violence.
They're definitely not thinking of the male-bodied person I saw recently who was quite happy with their male body, genitals and appearance and made no attempt to do any kind of transition other than to quite seriously call themselves a 'butch lesbian'.
It doesnt occur to people that someone would do that because it sounds bonkers

1. People don't realise that trans no longer just means transexuals

2. People haven't stopped to think about what it means if there are no more sex segregated spaces.

People I have spoken to have not really thought through the issues.
They just want to retain their nice inclusive lefty image and haven't thought about the real life implications. When I talk to them about real situations that are really happening they go 'Oh. ah' and don't have a response.

The percentages are also a combined total of two responses to the questions: 'View of transgender people using public toilets'

How comfortable would feel for transgender woman to use a female toilet (asked of women only)
How comfortable would feel for a transgender man to use a male toilet (asked of men only)

Very comfortable F:47 M: 41
Quite comfortable F:25 M: 24

www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/media/39147/bsa34_moral_issues_final.pdf

Just like 90% of all women see results of a new wrinkle cream with a sample size of 20 people.

The public aren't given the facts.
They are unaware of who is actually taking shelter under that huge trans umbrella.
They don't see the push to "educate" our kids and ignoring of all safeguarding.

Oh yes Taco missed that sorry. Agree just dismissing something with no reasoning not helpful.

And Bingpot I agree entirely.
I support trans rights against discrimination but also support women's rights to single-sex spaces. I don't view the two as incompatible.

Sounds about right to me

I have never had a problem with the a transwoman using the ladies

Now i want to know what is the definition of trans before i answer that question

If people think that a transwoman is someone who wants to be a woman and who is transitioning and wearing makeup and a dress then yeah...i dont doubt they dont have a problem

Thats not what it means nowadays though

I think this was the social atitude survey. Its interesting as some TRAs alternate between quoting this survey which demonstrates high levels of acceptance and then the Stonewall report on hate crimes reported by people who are transgender, thus demonstrating high levels of transphobia.

There was though an issue with the way the particular questions were framed in the Social Atitudes survey given that much of the general public likely assume talk of transwomen refers to transexuals who have had or are intending to have surgery.

I don't see anyone screaming fake news?

This poster:
Fake news. Designed to make people feel that they're in the wrong if they don't agree.

Also it is entirely possible to 'support trans' and want single sex changing options etc

The title of this isn't great. It's not that we don't 'support' trans people or are anti-trans. It's a little dangerous to frame it that way.

It's about protecting women's rights to single sex spaces and protecting their dignity, safety and privacy.

Was it the sky news report that featured Jess Bradley? It really hasn't aged well in the 1.5 weeks since it was aired.

And yes most of the general public have no idea what the trans umbrella now covers.