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NHS told: give trans patients equal access to fertility service

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miri1985 · 05/08/2018 00:20

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/04/nhs-trans-patients-equal-access-fertility-services

Anyone betting the EHRC don't take the same action to force the NHS to give women access to laser or electrolysis brought on by PCOS or menopause

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sandy259 · 05/08/2018 00:54

So, if we follow this to its logical conclusion, men who have vasectomies should be offered free sperm storage and then IVF or IUI for their partners and women who voluntarily sterilise themselves should be offered egg or embryo storage and then fertility treatments? Where is the money for all this coming from? If a teenager does this, how many decades should the NHS pay for storage?

Also while sperm and embryo storage has a fairly high chance of success, successful pregnancy after just egg storage is fairly rare and from what reading things written by Professor Robert Winston seems like a waste of money.

bluescreen · 05/08/2018 00:52

Cherry There are transmen who are certainly up to giving birth:
www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/mar/22/story-one-mans-pregnancy-trans-jason-barker

heresyandwitchcraft · 05/08/2018 00:52

I am going to be a little cruel here.
I am actually very very much on board with the principle of preserving gametes/fertility counselling for trans people. It's one of my biggest concerns regarding medical transition.
Don't get me started on my questions concerning the ethics of transitioning children, especialy this very topic.
However. This article to me reads like trans activists are now blaming the NHS for not doing enough for fertility preservation.
The dominant narrative in this debate has been that it's the activists themselves who are pushing for a rapid transition, especially for young people.
Additionally, as others have mentioned, fertility treatment on the NHS is not super well-organized for anyone, whether you are trans or not.

CherryPavlova · 05/08/2018 00:44

I’m thinking a trans women who is a biological male is going to have huge problems delivering a full term baby.
A trans man who is a biological female probably doesn’t need ivf - just sex during a fertile period. Then I think if they really want to be a man, why would they want to give birth ( the absolute quintessential overt sign of womanhood).

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 05/08/2018 00:35

No, no, no! I may be horrible but...

I've known teenagers with cancer desperate to preserve a shot at parenthood. I've known the partners of people who went through this scrabbling through the grim business of ivf.

It's a lottery and is frequently degrading.

Sterilization is sometimes a hideous side effect of saving a life. To choose it? And then demand equality with those who risk so much and have no option? Worse, to choose it for healthy children who cannot fully comprehend the implications.

Dear God...

bluescreen · 05/08/2018 00:32

If this is happening, what does transing even mean? Clearly, there's transing - changing your body to resemble the opposite sex - and transing which is affirming that your natal body is and always was of a different gender from that associated with the sexed body identified (not 'assigned') at birth.

Seriously though, it's good that someone is thinking of the children.

thebewilderness · 05/08/2018 00:32

I do not think that it is humanly possible to meet this requirement.

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