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Transing dead people.

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SirVixofVixHall · 04/08/2018 18:38

I know this has been mentioned before, but I’ve just seen a thread on Twitter by @thejeffreymarsh where he is posting images of “trans and non binary “ people from years gone by. Marlene Dietrich is on there, she apparently dated people “of many genders “ that would be both SEXES then Jeffrey ? Also many other pics of men in drag and women in vaguely masculine dress who may or may not be lesbians. As most of them are theatrical performers they are mainly costumes anyway.
The ridiculousness of this . MAKE IT STOP.... AAARGHHHHH.

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 03/09/2018 13:48

Julian Vigo on this very theme

quillette.com/2018/08/31/transgendering-the-dead/

SirVixofVixHall · 05/08/2018 17:56

It is so horribly sexist , as well as shameful.

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Bowlofbabelfish · 05/08/2018 17:06

They tried this with Elizabeth I as well. Because of course no woman could be a multilingual and strategic genius who could rule a kingdom could she?

noeffingidea · 05/08/2018 07:57

Some people on Tumblr tried to trans David Bowie and Prince after their death. Obviously people ignored it though. What they don't seem to understand is that cross dressing, men wearing makeup and drag used to come under the gay 'umbrella' rather than the other way round. I think it's also part of trying to erase bisexuality.

LaSquirrel · 05/08/2018 04:02

Like transgenderism itself, there is a sex bias - with most of the dead being transed ARE female, are being erased. Two sides of the one coin really, with males planting their sickly stripy flag on Womanville.

And no, I actually am not 'enjoying my erasure' at all. Rather pissy about it, tbh.

LaSquirrel · 05/08/2018 03:58

Listen and understand. The TRAs are out there. They can't be bargained with, they can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse or fear, and they absolutely will not stop until you are dead.

But unlike the Terminators, death won't stop the TRAs. Far more frightening!

thebewilderness · 05/08/2018 00:53

The purpose of hoisting the trans umbrella was to be the majority and take power over the cissie minority. Transgender advocates made that clear from the very beginning.

TheFemaleGaze · 05/08/2018 00:40

Marlene Dietrich was many things but above all, she was very much a woman. Mindboggling that she would be called trans for a few affairs with women and wearing the odd tuxedo.

IJustHadToNameChange · 05/08/2018 00:34

Well of course.

Cuz women are pretty, simpering, little things who never do anything horrid, like punching someone. Hmm

thebewilderness · 05/08/2018 00:29

Marsha P. Johnson, drag queen, gay man and an activist, was a transwoman.

I found it particularly significant that they forcibly transitioned a male to give him credit for starting the Stonewall riot, he was not at, in order to erase the Lesbian who was there and did inspire it, Storme DeLarverie,
I guess they wanted some misogyny with their homophobia.

TheCountryGirl · 04/08/2018 23:04

Heresy I know.,,ould Arnie is always good for a joke or two. Like most men.

SirVixofVixHall · 04/08/2018 23:03

Pink flares with silver platforms.....I can go with that. Oh yes.

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TheCountryGirl · 04/08/2018 23:03

Tyler ffs!

TheCountryGirl · 04/08/2018 23:02

Vix bring back shoulder pads, blue eyeshadow and Bonnie Taylor if it meant putting an end to this trans crapola!

IJustHadToNameChange · 04/08/2018 22:59

Men are also being posthumously transed.

Marsha P. Johnson, drag queen, gay man and an activist, was a transwoman.

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/obituaries/overlooked-marsha-p-johnson.html

He was a drag queen who set up STAR; Street Transvestite Action Revolutionaries.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 04/08/2018 22:55

Vix I had some shocking pie crust collars! And later some properly heavy goth jewellery. Not to mention a couple of years when I wore my dad's pink flares with my mum's silver platforms. I'll promise to wear them all at once if this stops!

SmellyHead · 04/08/2018 22:51

Saw this Twitter thread today which was made to celebrate butch lesbians: https://twitter.com/stressbianism/status/1025837633908482048?s=21]]

SirVixofVixHall · 04/08/2018 22:47

@Alicethroughtheblackmirror Bring back the 80s I say. Even the pie crust collars if it gets us out of this mess.

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heresyandwitchcraft · 04/08/2018 22:44

TheCountryGirl
Smile Love a Terminator joke!

Wherismymind · 04/08/2018 22:26

But I thought mis-gendering was literal violence?

So how come TRA can now assume the gender of historical figures?

silentcrow · 04/08/2018 22:02

Alice ah well. Thanks to whoever it was! I love stories of real historical women saying "screw this, let's get stuff done", whether they had to dress as men or not.

TheCountryGirl · 04/08/2018 21:51

Heresy I did that too, with The Terminator.

Listen and understand. The TRAs are out there. They can't be bargained with, they can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse or fear, and they absolutely will not stop until you are dead.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 04/08/2018 21:42

It wasn't. I'd love to claim credit, but no...

I think I just brought up Jennie Hodgers on the back of my rather dry reading but the stories deserve wider audience, so I'm glad!

SirVixofVixHall · 04/08/2018 21:41

@heresyandwitchcraft I ❤️ You.

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silentcrow · 04/08/2018 21:34

(I mentioned the hundreds of women who disguised themselves and fought in the American civil war).

Oh! Alice, was it you that mentioned the book Neverhome a couple of weeks and a billion posts ago? I managed to get a copy, really looking forward to reading. Thanks!

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