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Julie Burchill on Brighton transpride and nonbinary affectation

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2rebecca · 04/08/2018 12:41

Will post link below as can't remember how to do it when starting threads. I heard she was at the recent Women's Place event in Brighton, she mentions it but wrote this before the event. Would be interesting to hear what she thought of that too. I love a bit of Julie Burchill. Totally agree with her.

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AngryAttackKittens · 06/08/2018 13:43

Who said anything about homophobes? I may not be a fan of Britney's music but I wouldn't accuse her fans of having questionable views on anything other than music.

Unknowndevice · 06/08/2018 13:41

jasminemaya I think you’ll find Charlotte Raven (Julie’s one time lesbian lover) may disagree with your assumption of Julie’s heterosexuality.

ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 13:39

Many people are idiots Jasmine

The fact that lots of people turned up to Pride doesn't prove much, and gives no information about the content of the article that is the subject of this thread....

ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 13:37

Still non the wiser about your actual views about the article Jasmine

I mean I know in Woke Land 'correct' opinions don't need to be justified, but it's good practice to be able to explain the reasoning behind your views.

Otherwise you just look like someone who follows prevailing opinions without reflecting on them or thinking for themselves

jasminemaya · 06/08/2018 13:33

So the cheering rainbow coloured crowds lining the streets of Brighton on Saturday were all secret homophobes who just wanted to see Britney? Interesting theory.

hipsterfun · 06/08/2018 13:33

I enjoyed her Brexit ponces piece.

Provocative and funny.

The snowflakes quickly began demanding that London – Ponce Central – be allowed to secede from the rest of this churlish isle, with just a unicorn-shuttle-service to keep them connected to Scotland. The prospect of getting shot of 99 per cent of man-buns and clean-eaters in one fell swoop was almost parasexually thrilling, but as Suzanne Moore pointed out in an excellent piece in the Guardian, what did these Little Londoners plan to do with the whopping 40 per cent of Londoners who voted Leave? There are two nations in London itself, one doing the dirty work of the other, unseen and unheard...

AngryAttackKittens · 06/08/2018 13:18

I thought a bunch of people went mostly to see Britney Spears...

(No accounting for taste, etc.)

ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 13:12

Brilliant article Hackmum, thanks for linking

ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 13:11

Ah, you went to a corporate parade with lots of other people so don't need to back up your assertions? Okey dokey

Really hope you didn't study any essay based subjects

jasminemaya · 06/08/2018 13:04

Ha I was at Brighton Pride this weekend and I really don't think the 100,000 or so people cheering and celebrating LGBT people were secretly worrying about Julie Burchill.

Her 'beef' with gay and bisexual people for the problems they face (she wouldn't know because she isn't gay or bisexual) is like a white person having 'beef' with black people for experiencing racism.

hackmum · 06/08/2018 12:57

Julie Burchill has spent her entire career being provocative. To be honest, I'd start feeling worried if I agreed with everything she wrote.

Some of you may remember her 2013 piece about transgenderism for the Observer, which drew so many complaints that the Observer pulled it. Toby Young republished it for a while on his Telegraph blog, but I couldn't find it when I looked just now. But while looking, I found this other piece by her on the problems of intersectionality, which is breathtakingly good and chimes with a lot of the stuff we've been arguing for some time:

www.spectator.co.uk/2014/02/dont-you-dare-tell-me-to-check-my-privilege/

TheCountryGirl · 06/08/2018 12:46

More desperation...it appears TRAs are beginning to get a teensy bit worried.😁

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 06/08/2018 12:38
Grin
ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 12:34

Mmm Jasmine were you planning on engaging with what she actually said at any point or are comments about JBs privilege and age all you've got

Because someone witnessing that behaviour might come to the conclusion that you're worried she has a point

jasminemaya · 06/08/2018 12:07

Quite a pitiful existence for a previously high profile journalist to be reduced to writing 'edgy' homophobic and transphobic rants on Spiked online, but if it makes her happy I don't suppose it's really harming anyone.

AngryAttackKittens · 06/08/2018 11:54

Gosh, why must women insist on still existing after they've gotten old? Shouldn't be allowed.

ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 11:50

I meant prejudice of course!

Prej is how the cool kids say it

ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 11:49

Good display of prej

ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 11:49

Ah

Old = irrelevant

Gotcha

jasminemaya · 06/08/2018 11:44

Quite enjoyed Sugar Rush and her Guardian columns used to be vaguely entertaining but she seems to have completely lost the plot since then.

I think in her head it's still about 1980.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 06/08/2018 11:37

You should perhaps read up about someone before making untrue assumptions about them, jasminemaya.

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 06/08/2018 11:33

Julie burchill doesn't seem that privileged if she can't define her own sexuality.

ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 11:29

In this case privileged = person with a working class upbringing who has really achieved things

ReluctantCamper · 06/08/2018 11:28

Up late were we?

I know excessive sneering can cause sleeplessness

jasminemaya · 06/08/2018 11:24

Correction: Privileged, straight women who had 'adolescent adventures in sexual perversity' tells LGBT people they're not oppressed. Yawn yawn yawn.