Why do TRAs keep using black women when defending TWAW?

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I don't agree with all of it, but the pattern is the same and its born of the same mindset;
"Hey, I can't be racist as I have a black friend" type shit. Except people are swallowing it whole without thinking because there is a rigid oppression scale that has no nuance and people forgot to use their brain cells.

The hypocrisy of it all is the thing that stinks of shit most of all.

You should criticise 'your own'. Its healthy. It stops problems from being ignored at their roots and becoming scandals.

It winds me up. These types of statements, and the fact that biological men are allowed to compete against biological women in sport, are the reasons I peaked.

It's such a false equivalence. Women are women, it does not matter if they are black or white.

I'm still waiting to hear an intelligent, logical TRA argument. But, because the entire undertaking is predicated on the lie that humans can change sex, none of the arguments make much sense. Trying to create false equivalencies with the black and intersex communities too for example is just the sound of the barrel being scraped as they try to justify what is and will always be a lie.

The wording of that tweet is painfully revealing about the writer's own racism. Misogyny and racism disguised as progressivism yet again.

Its because they are bigoted arseholes trying not to look like the bigoted arseholes they are, so they shout 'hey look at the squirrel!'. So you don't analyse militant trans ideology.

Exactly.

The extremes are "I am not a racist" and then being accused of being a "racist/bigot". It "throws one off".

That's what predators want - that moment of confusion/shock - they sense the vulnerability of their target and move in with more attacks using false facts. It's designed to silence the opposition.

The same tactics are used by abusers in coercive control /intimate partner violence. Those same tactics are utilised by politicians to confuse the electorate to get their way (Brexit).

Its because they are bigoted arseholes trying not to look like the bigoted arseholes they are, so they shout 'hey look at the squirrel!'. So you don't analyse militant trans ideology.

Because they're good cover - like the wolf in RRH who dresses up as Gran - your mind really doesn't want to hold the extremes of Loving Gran and Dangerous Predator - thus those opposite ends of the spectrum thoughts causes cognitive dissonance - stops a person dead in their tracks from confusion normally.

tl;dr predators know how to disguise themselves and their intent well.

Never mind false equivalence. The equating of black women to TWs is an outright racist (and misogynist) statement. When a white man says it (and it always is a white man) he is calling up centuries of history in which black women have been considered lesser than white women, and not just lesser in the simple racist sense but less female. More masculine. Less "beautiful". It is about the most dog-whistling, loaded, history-ridden thing that white man can say, short of what he really thinks which is that black women are not really human at all.

It is a truly vile comparison to make.

I think this is why they aren’t getting anywhere.

I know what I know. I don’t care if someone is black, white, brown, gay, straight, rich, poor, upper class, working class, middle class whatever. I don’t care if you wear a bikini or a hijab or anything in between. I don’t care my friend James wears make up and shaves his legs. I don’t care that someone I know is now called Jessica when she used to be Stan (all names changed for privacy).

I know I’m not a bigot. I know what’s real and what isn’t. Biology is real. The rights of one group don’t mean they can walk over the rights of another.

They try to accuse us of racism and/or homophobia to try to make it seem like we are bigots. It’s not working.

They've been asked not to, and been told why it's offensive, so why do they persist?

Because they are narcissistic types who are only concerned with beating you in an argument. They have no empathy or moral compass.

I find this parroting back of your words even though they don't make any sense quite a common tactic of transactivists.

It's so they can accuse you of being racist, make your lady-doubt kick in so you shut up.

I think my hubby might be woman enough for them - he has a penis. It's not a lady penis though. It's very definitely a male penis. But it's white. Maybe he'll get a free pass for that....

Oh poop, I misquoted them...oh well, that's what comes from being too nauseated to read it a second time.

I'm colouring myself happy with a bacon sandwich right now.

May I quote the tweet...."If black women really were women"...actually they said "If black women were truly women"

Truly not really, re-colour and re-slap yourself.

Maybe this person doesn't think any women are truly women, regardless of their skin colour. Words usually trip people up in the end.

It’s a combination of things. Victim laddering, false equivalence and thought terminating cliche.

Yes!

Should also say that women are socialised to JADE ( justify apologise defend and explain) so this also appeals to that.

Gosh we need a thread on this alone!

Should also say that women are socialised to JADE ( justify apologise defend and explain) so this also appeals to that.

It’s a combination of things. Victim laddering, false equivalence and thought terminating cliche.

No one decent wants to be thought of as racist. So if someone’s arguing with you all you have to do is insinuate in some way that they are racist/bigoted etc. Now your opponent is on the back foot, having to explain that they aren’t racist and they are not able to argue the point that they were making.

It stops the argument dead.

Astounding lack of self awareness.

Erm. Might just be me, but I thought the trans was short for transitioned, not meaning across from.

That's one of the reasons cis makes my teeth itch, cos it's used out of context.....

Just read the tweet properly. We do just call black women 'women' you absolute cuntweasels. Because they are.

Because they are racist as well as sexist and homophobic?

In addition to the above, because white men are over-represented in the TRA movement and it doesn't really occur to them that the person that they are engaging with on SM might not also be white (because white is their default). It's supposed to guilt trip the other person, whilst establishing their own "woke dude bro" credentials

Personally, I find it tends to cement my suspicions that I'm reading the words of a bigotted misogynist

But if you saw a group of black women in the street, and you wanted to refer to them, you'd just call them women. Unless you're racist, then you might make the distinction of them being black.

May I quote the tweet...."If black women really were women"

Well.

I knew you could be a woman and have a ladypenis. I didn't know that your skin wasn't allowed to be dark if you were to qualify as a woman, irrespective of genitals and chromosomes.

Colour me educated and slap me with a live trout, you live and learn.