Can Men Be Feminists?

*I would be very interested to find one of these pubs. They sound much better than the ones i've been frequenting all of my adult life. Are they sort of a secret? Do you need a password to get in?

mockery*

No shit Sherlock!

^^ also mockery. I can see a theme developing here...

Stop mocking him! Or her..or zey, zee, zim, vim, whatever.

Interesting that you say you challenge people insulting straight, while men, yet you do not challenge men over their abuse of women.🤨 Even trying (dismally) to defend men as a group regarding their abuse of women.

where did I say I don't challenge men if they abuse women?

Where did I say I defend men regarding their abuse of women.

I am in favour of everyone being treated well and fairly, men and women.

Posters on this thread have said men cannot be feminists, that is totally untrue, some men are. Some men I know are better feminists than some women I know. And they don't necessarily go around stating the fact that they are feminists, although they might say so if asked. Slating them and saying they can't because they are men is a totally ridiculous.

Claire- can you give some examples?

I agree that the responses were a bit mocking-but I did ask you for more information and you didn't give it.

claire I wonder what it is you get out of your handmaiden duties

Can you give us some examples of this bad treatment you see happening, Claire? Like, last time you stepped in in the pub when a group of women were unfairly attaching a nice kind sensitive man - what exactly happened?

When I go down the pub, it's full of scary women interrogating men and telling them how they are manning wrong. My DH is scared to come in with me, it's that bad.

mockery

I can well imagine Bertrand the pubs round here are just wall to wall with people slagging off decent, sensitive, straight white men simply for existing. The utter bastards.

mockery

Is he a sensitive, decent, straight white male Agastache? I do hope he's surviving being done down all the time.

mockery

I would be very interested to find one of these pubs. They sound much better than the ones i've been frequenting all of my adult life. Are they sort of a secret? Do you need a password to get in?

mockery

more and more mockery

so your response to be desribing to you my concerns about the bad treatment I see decent people suffering is to repeatedly mock it.

This says quite a lot about you, and the liklihood that you are guilty of treating people badly yourself.

Then the natural conclusion is that those men are not being the kind, sensitive wee souls you'd like to think they are.

100% pure victim blaming, you don't even know the people I'm talking about.

If someone said this about a woman who was being treated badly, they would quite rightly be shot down in flames.

you are no better

Oh god, another thread that mentions men turning into some men and NAMALT!!!! Because clearly, feminists think every single man on the planet is the same

I thought it was the law that every thread had to? Oops.

I would be very interested to find one of these pubs. They sound much better than the ones i've been frequenting all of my adult life. Are they sort of a secret? Do you need a password to get in?

Oh god, another thread that mentions men turning into some men and NAMALT!!!! Because clearly, feminists think every single man on the planet is the same

I have never understood the need to shout namalt in discussions about, for example, rape. Like, does anyone actually think every man is? Thats a depressing thought.

Is he a sensitive, decent, straight white male Agastache? I do hope he's surviving being done down all the time.

NOT MY NIGEL

Interesting that you say you challenge people insulting straight, while men, yet you do not challenge men over their abuse of women.🤨 Even trying (dismally) to defend men as a group regarding their abuse of women.

MRAs are so tiresome.

I can well imagine Bertrand the pubs round here are just wall to wall with people slagging off decent, sensitive, straight white men simply for existing. The utter bastards.

Yeah, no. Not a thing.

There are pubs round here where men go to the loo in pairs because of all the women playing pool and “accidentally” brushing past their crotches as they go past.

because these are seen as additional reasons to pile into completely decent, innocent men

Could you possibly point out where this is happening, because it would appear not to be part of the same plane of reality the rest of the world is on.

“because these are seen as additional reasons to pile into completely decent, innocent men”

Examples please.

When I go down the pub, it's full of scary women interrogating men and telling them how they are manning wrong. My DH is scared to come in with me, it's that bad.

All pubs are full of witches feminists of the wrong sort doing that. Anyone who says otherwise must be a witch feminist of the wrong sort themselves.

yes they do, constantly, even just in the course of normal conversations in the pub, I see it all the time, and I challenge it regularly.

Then the natural conclusion is that those men are not being the kind, sensitive wee souls you'd like to think they are.

And you still haven't responded as to why being white and straight is an issue.

Not sure what relevance being straight or white has to this discussion, could you possibly enlighten us?

because these are seen as additional reasons to pile into completely decent, innocent men

Good for you. Now can you point out where precisely anyone on here has had a go at a decent person solely on account of their being straight or white?

I know a number of decent kind sensitive men. One thing they all have in common is they all refrain from prancing about declaring themselves to be feminists and telling women they are doing feministing wrong, might be just a coincidence I suppose.

Indeed.

Two words Claire...class analysis.😉

“yes they do, constantly, even just in the course of normal conversations in the pub, I see it all the time, and I challenge it regularly.”

Could you give an example?