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What ARE the "gender traits" of a woman?

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sociopathsunited · 01/08/2018 17:02

Following on from comments in other posts, about what construes the "gender traits" of a woman....what the fuck are they?

If they're what I THINK they are....I don't have a single female friend who fits neatly into that space on the game board, not one. On the other hand, looking at "gender traits" of a man, I don't think I have any males in my life who slot in perfectly, either.

Does anyone fit it perfectly? Anyone REAL, I mean. Not some fictional character, I mean a real life living human being.

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thebewilderness · 01/08/2018 20:00

In the dominance/submission paradigm that is the basis for the gender hierarchy women are the submissives.

IAmInsignificunt · 01/08/2018 18:24

Raindrops on noses and whiskers on kittens
Glittery stilettos and pink silky knickers,
Plastic ASOS packages, with frilly things
These are a few of my favourite things

Cream-coloured ponies and shopping with the gir-rls
Chocolate and lipstick
And puppies like poodles
Wild nights in mini skirts and faux diamond rings
These are a few of my favourite things

IAmInsignificunt · 01/08/2018 18:15

I once went to a live recording it Top Gear (it was awful), I am clearly a man.

PersephoneInTheGarden · 01/08/2018 18:13

I wonder how much attention is paid to the language used by men and women. There are a couple of websites (www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php and www.uclassify.com/browse/uclassify/genderanalyzer_v5) which do textual analysis on pieces of writing and decide whether they were written by a man or a woman. This is based on an algorithm learned through analysing texts. I've done this several times with things I've written and am definitely at least 80% male (I'm not. But I am an educated woman!)

Agastache · 01/08/2018 18:10

Another woman might think I'm crackers and wouldn't dream of wasting her time on any of this stuff.

You are crackers Star. My devotion to my nails consists of scraping the mud out before I make a loaf of bread.

Yes I have clean hands when I knead.

At least I do by the end. Wink

Lottapianos · 01/08/2018 18:05

Visions Grin

Well who among us hasn't done a bit of cheeky cock waving in our time? Hmm

MyVisionsComeFromSoup · 01/08/2018 18:04

going by news reports in the past week, the main gender trait of a woman would be getting your cock out in public and posting photos of it online Grin

Lottapianos · 01/08/2018 18:04

For me,an important part of 'living as a woman' i.e. living as me, is putting on a full face of make up every morning and doing my nails twice a week. Another woman might think I'm crackers and wouldn't dream of wasting her time on any of this stuff. Neither of us are less of a woman because of the views we hold. I agree that 'living as a woman / man' is totally meaningless

lurker33 · 01/08/2018 17:57

With regards to an award of a GRC, the person, I believe, has to live in their preferred gender for two years.... It would be interesting to challenge the awarding of GRCs on the basis that you can't actually define what 'living as a woman' or 'living as a man' actually entails.

Ofew · 01/08/2018 17:51

Oh thanks for that checklist D0do, as I don't seem to get many woman points maybe I'm a man:

Tough, mentally and physically Yes
Forceful Yes
Ambitious Yes
Competitive Sometimes
Confident Yes
Funny (whereas we all know that women aren't hmm) Yes
Direct Yes
Brave Yes
Don't talk about emotion No
Don't express any emotion except anger No
Naturally good at DIY and mechanical stuff No
Fascinated by sport and cars No
Brilliant spatial skills - Good with maps, bad with Ikea
Hopeless at multitasking, cleaning, cooking, childrearing because of innate qualities (nothing at all to do with learned behaviour/helplessness!) No

I'm still confused about what I am...

And again, my DP would give pretty much the same answers but he's hopeless at multitasking except he does Ikea but not maps.

Agastache · 01/08/2018 17:46

The vocal folks who have chosen to become women seem to have a rather specific image of a type of women in their heads that I don't recognise

I recognise them - they are all caricatures. Mainly of a [quite dangerous job role removed by MNHQ and it ain't steeple-jacking]

D0do · 01/08/2018 17:45

Stereotypical male traits

Tough, mentally and physically
Forceful
Ambitious
Competitive
Confident
Funny (whereas we all know that women aren't Hmm)
Direct
Brave
Don't talk about emotion
Don't express any emotion except anger
Naturally good at DIY and mechanical stuff
Fascinated by sport and cars
Brilliant spatial skills
Hopeless at multitasking, cleaning, cooking, childrearing because of innate qualities (nothing at all to do with learned behaviour/helplessness!)

Yes, I don't know any men like that either. And I do know quite a few women who fit most of that.

Ofew · 01/08/2018 17:45

Just checking if I am properly womaning...

Make up/clothes/appearance - no
Children - yes
"Nice" - sometimes
Primary care giver to children - yes, at the moment, soon to swap with (male) DP
Shopping - not really
Prosecco - yes (ditto chocolate)
Cleaning - NO NO NO
Romantic comedies - mostly yuk
Unicorns and mermaids - um, they don't exist so I don't have any particular view.

Not sure what that makes me really. A person with a personality maybe? In fact looking at that list I think my DP would probably give the same answers, maybe a bit less anti-cleaning than me. Because he's got a personality too.

And the TRAs think we are the ones obsessed with binaries.

DieAntword · 01/08/2018 17:42

Can get pregnant unless post-menopausal or have issues with their reproductive system. Can lactate unless they have issue with their mammaries or hormones. Engage in care taking behaviours, primarily toward their own children but sometimes spilling over to other children or childlike creatures (including adult humans with varying degrees of child-likeness), unless they have issues with their brain (autism, depression etc) and/or relational psychology or are significant outliers.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 01/08/2018 17:37

Puppies and scatter cushions. Sequins and glitter. Fluffy things of all types. Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens?

MaisyPops · 01/08/2018 17:36

We all like unicorns.
Damn. That was my answer.

We also like mermaid and unicorn items and would gladly have everything from toilet brushes to entire staircases covered in glitter.

We love hair and makeup and the highlight of our whole life is our wedding day because that is our day, all about us where we can be a real Disney princess for the day.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 01/08/2018 17:35

Oh the female signs disappeared... How odd (and rather disconcerting)

AsAProfessionalFekko · 01/08/2018 17:35

My little pics came out as female signs! Let me try again ! 💁‍♀️🙅‍♀️🤷‍♀️💇‍♀️🧜‍♀️🧚‍♂️🧚‍♀️🌈💄💋💃👠👗✨💪🧠

AsAProfessionalFekko · 01/08/2018 17:33

And whispy voices like Marilyn Monroe with tonsillitis.

Lottapianos · 01/08/2018 17:32

'we just love caring for other people).'

Yep. And along with housework, it doesn't even count as actual work, it's just 'stuff women do that men couldn't possibly be expected to' Hmm

AsAProfessionalFekko · 01/08/2018 17:31

💁‍♀️🤷‍♀️🙅‍♀️ you forgot all the hand movements and hair flicks. And the fairies, sparkles, my little ponies, rainbows and nice dresses. A bit like a 5 year old really.

Lottapianos · 01/08/2018 17:30

'The vocal folks who have chosen to become women seem to have a rather specific image of a type of women in their heads that I don't recognise.'

Absolutely and it seems to be mostly about mascara, heels, hair flicking and assorted other stuff that MANY actual women couldn't give a shit about

Mrskeats · 01/08/2018 17:29

In my case it means being pissed off with all this gender nonsense.

aaarrrggghhhh · 01/08/2018 17:29

What I do love though is that TRAs are at the forefront of the feminist fight against the caring stereotypes - they won't be doing any of the unpaid caring labour rest assured.

Lottapianos · 01/08/2018 17:29

'Lotto you forgot likes pink and sparklies'

Indeed. Little boys who like glitter or tutus or dollies - clearly a girl Hmm