Labour councillor quits in row over facilities for trans people - The Times

Ann Sinnott tweets here: twitter.com/AnnMSinnott

"Sarah Brown, a transgender Lib Dem councillor who lost her seat to Ms Sinnott, put forward the policy. She is in a so-called polyamorous relationship with another Cambridge councillor".

LGBT Lib Dem have been after Sinnott for a while (with Lily Madigan, yes, of Labour, helping them).

Labour Sinnott beat Lib Dem Sarah Brown in the local council elections in May 2018.

Good for her to take such a principled stand.

Move on; nothing to see here.

No.

I'm seeing plenty here, thanks, so I won't be moving on. I'll be discussing it.

Part of Anne Sinnott's comment as to why she decided to resign:

“Cambridge city council knowingly stands in dereliction of the law. I have no wish to be party to unlawfulness, nor will I collude in keeping this matter from Cambridge women, and other residents — they have the right to know. I do not want to be a member of a council that fails to recognise that female-only facilities are needed by women as a generality. Nor do I wish to be associated with a council that effectively treated Cambridge women with contempt, while it insidiously dismantled their rights.”

Couldn’t she have become an independent and therefore an opposition councillor?

"No Debate! I said NO DEBATE! Women! Stop debating!"

Thank you Anne.

The people crowing about this are misogynists. Its also clear they don't understand the laws they support.
If a man says he is a woman, he is one. You support this, you own it.

The wheels are falling of the TRA juggernaut.

Telling me there is 'no debate' or 'nothing to see here' tells me and other women the exact opposite.

Gncq

"So it's a case of quit before you're suspended/expelled."

It's not that trivial. It is far more principled than that. It is based on the principle that the law gives girls and women very specific protections and rights and men are abusing that law.

I also don't see how the second example was covered by the council policy. The police should have been called.

Why would the police have been called? The male-bodied person said they were a woman, ergo they are a woman and no bigot has any business saying otherwise. Isn’t that how gender identity works? If they were aggressive and wearing male clothes, then all they were doing was widening the band with of what it means to be a woman. For any TRA to talk about calling the police is disingenuous at best.

And how is it “transphobic” of the Times to report the resignation of a Councillor and quote her? The result of hyperbolically calling the reporting of facts transphobic is that none of us give a shit anymore about being called transphobes. It doesn’t have anywhere near the same effect as being called racist.

Move on; nothing to see here

That phrase is virtually always a lie

Its always said by police or teachers in school or security guards in shops

And there is always...always something to see

So it's a case of quit before you're suspended/expelled.

Don’t tell us to move on sarahar

No power over us

Gncq

Ann Ruzylo resigning has meant she has been free to travel across England to speak at various meetings and raise awareness of this issue and the threat it presents to the rights and protections for girls and women. Ann has been able to achieve far more by being outside of Labour than could ever be done by being inside it.

Many women have resigned our membership from Labour for just that purpose.

The house of cards is starting to collapse and will pick up more and more momentum as it goes. Women in positions of power are taking a stand, like Anne. More will follow. Jess being suspended means the GRA amendments they proposed are difficult not to view as an abusers charter now. Cue lots of flailing and desperation.

R0w how will quitting help?

SarahAr

There is plenty to see here, which is why women are saying "No!" What we women see is our rights and protections being supplanted by males. We are not accepting that. We are determined to defend all the rights and protections for girls and women in all spheres.

..and thank you everyone else who took the trouble to explain.

I remember Labour Women's officer Ann Ruzylo quit over trans issues but what did it change? Nothing. It was just
"OK bye then".

Am I missing something though, isn't her quitting just freeing up a space for someone who is in support of this BS?

There's a bigger picture with regards Cambridge and The Equalities Act.

Well done to her for having principles and for giving a damn about women and abuse of the law.

This will highlight the issue and I hope other prominent women follow suit.

She said that women
have the right to know*
This is how I feel towards the GRA consultation and Lord FreeMason's stealth plans for the London toilets.
Everything is sly, hidden agendas.

Hurrah to her and The Times.

Jackyholyoake I see: thank you, that makes sense!

Surely it was still easier to dissent from within

Politics shouldn't be about ease.

Some might hope that dissent could be more effective from within but given Anne Sinnott's decision and the statement, this seems not to have been the case either.

I imagine her (& perhaps others') attempts might come to be discussed in the future.