Woman in Paris attacked the street

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OMG Transplants THANK YOU. THIS is IT. Absolutely IT. I'm going to get him to read it and hopefully it'll help him understand. Thank you.

Fucking hell spanishwife.

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There was a good blog piece linked on here a while back about "Shroedinger's Rapist" which you could show him. It made me think - and I'm a woman.

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I was surprised that nobody went to check that she was ok or even spoke to her. It was good to see that there was a quick reaction to the attacker but really sad that no one was acknowledging the victim.

I lived in Paris 20+ years ago and was amazed on an almost daily basis at the behaviour of (some) men towards me. The open sleeziness was so shocking, the fact that men would touch me or talk to me inappropriately in full view, day and night. It felt as if it was the responsibility of women to prove that they were not interested to avoid being given unwanted attention - It sounds as if things may have got worse since my time there.

"If a man is causing problems in the ladies loo, just tell him to leave"

"If a man is causing problems in the changing room while you are naked and extra vulnerable just tell him to leave"

"If a man is causing problems in a refuge, he can be asked to leave"

This illustrates why we don't ask them to leave. Why we put our heads down, do our business as quickly as possible and leave the room before anything untoward happens

I can't fully remember what happens the second time, I just have the memory that I was flashed at twice on a uni trip to Paris.

This was 20 years ago.

The only time I've been flashed was on the underground in Paris. Twice.

One man approached us as we looked at the map with a big trench coat on. I thought he was looking at the map too but he kept looking at me. I glanced down and he was masturbating. I grabbed my friends but they thought it was because the train had arrived.

The Paris metro is harrassment central with men rubbing themselves up against you like dogs. Awful video but I am not shocked. I think it happens a lot in Paris.

socio ugh it's exhausting isn't it! I feel your post so deeply.

I too am trying to help my husband understand. I made the decision to tell him every single time something happens when I am alone rather than minimise as I would usually have done.

This woman is so brave in speaking out and has done all women a huge service - I'm sure she is receiving a lot of horrible backlash too.

I showed this to my husband, who sat there open mouthed in shock. I said what some PP's have said - THIS is why women don't "fight back" as we're constantly lectured to. This is why women don't make eye contact. This is why women don't walk alone after dark. This is why women probably won't be safe to walk alone in the bright daylight soon. Because the moment you challenge one of these walking bombs, they go off. I'm trying to educate him, but honestly, he has absolutely no clue about what we face on a daily basis. I can explain till I'm blue in the face about having to be hyper aware of everyone around me when I'm alone. About locking the car when I'm driving. About why I look behind me constantly. About why I look at train carriages and choose one carefully. He's had no idea, until now, how quickly a simple "go away and leave me alone" can turn into your face being smashed in, your hair being grabbed, your body dragged along the street against your will, your breasts being groped......It's like he's been living on another fucking planet, no matter how many times I've explained. So I'd like to thank this woman for publishing this video and for letting me show him why things have to change. He thinks only a few men behave like this and most of them are good guys, like him. He can't conceive it any other way. Yet most women have been harassed in some way during their lives. I doubt it's the same twenty men doing all that.....Wolves in sheep's clothing indeed.

I was recently harassed on public transport and when I stood up for myself, was physically attacked. I reacted in the way I was always told to: shout up loudly, "stop touching me, get off me" etc, call the staff for help.

I got no support from the staff, told off by other people for not just moving seats (like it was my own fault), tutting and eye rolls because I made a fuss. I stayed as calm and dignified as I could and focused on protecting myself instead of fighting back - I was blamed for being the victim, never mind giving him a good whack back.

Following the event when I told people I knew, all the reactions were "next time kick him in the balls" or threaten him with xyz...

Women literally can't do anything right, even when they are the victim.
Do nothing, it's your fault, stand up for yourself and get beaten up in broad daylight!

I guess we are all different. If I were that woman I would be more grateful at that moment for some hefty bloke collaring the bastard and sitting on him so he could be hauled into court and I could get justice. Time enough for comfort once the bastard is prone on the floor.

I guess I just have empathy with the victim - I just really feel for her.

I would want people around me to protect me and to know that I had support.

I don't blame people for reacting in a shocked way and any reaction is the right one in a situation like that.

My immediate thought was to want to care for her - not to chase him.

I don't think that's a strange way of seeing it at all.

Actually chair man does even look back to see she's OK once he's got there with the chair between them.

I felt like she was so alone. No one seemed to notice her at all. The attacker became the object of everyone's attention.

That's a strange way of seeing it. I'd be thankful in her situation that the bystanders stood up at their own risk to scare the man off. And to stop him from feeling safe in coming back. I wouldn't want to be comforted by strangers (though it appears they did, when it was safe check on her).

Years ago, I read Simone de Beauvoir's autobiography and she recounts a very similar incident that happened, I think, to her friend Olga. If I remember it correctly, Olga was walking down a Paris street when a man approaching her tweaked her nipple. She told him to fuck off and he punched her, knocking her to the ground.

That would have been, I guess, 80 years ago. Plus ca change...

LaSquirell

It makes me so sad to hear that. And yet we have men who willfully seem to not understand why women have to be constantly on their guard, even if not consciously, when they themselves are scared of other men.

ToeToToe

I agree. It's really interesting to see the different reactions.

The bystanders were scared. I would have been.
They aren't adrenalined up like the woman was

And well they might be. he was a scary, dangerous man

This is why women don't fight back, because it encourages more aggression.

Yes, it seems to, more often than not. And you never really know just how much they are willing to up the ante. I have been the victim of street harassment several times, one quite physical assault. Men stood around and did nothing.

It's a horrendous video. A violent attack on a woman on the street.

I noticed the bystander reaction - obviously these things happen so quickly, it can be hard to react - but I took it to be the actions of people around a vicious animal. Shock. Defensive - is this man a danger to us. Does he have a weapon etc? One man picked up a chair - defensive in the heat of the moment.

Male violence. Violent males are unpredictable - like wild animals. And we never know who they are.

When will people tackle male violence? If we treated it with the contempt we treat drink driving we could eradicate it in a generation.

This is why women don't fight back, because it encourages more aggression. This is why we want female space so that we can relax away from males.

How is it not already illegal for men to harass women like that?