Jess Bradley, suspended - Part II

That's good news, JackyHolyoake

Also, if you want to get the measure of a man, say no to him about something relatively minor and watch and listen carefully to what he does next.

You MNers give great advice. I recently saw a woman say no to a man (actually she said wait 2 minutes). He started shouting at her and calling her a fucking bitch. 10 mins later he was nice as pie to me and some other women (not realising we had seen him with the first woman). Because I've been v fortunate I've never experienced abusive behaviour or someone flip like that, I don't think I really understood it before. I'm beginning to get it now.

I actually see a common drive between getting your cock out on a train and appearing on television saying that you identify as “a non-binary trans woman” and don’t believe there’s any such thing as a real woman.

The thrill of seeing what you can get away with, the feeling that you have something over the unsuspecting people (esp women) around you, and that frisson of excitement that comes from feeling that you may have pushed it too far and that this may be the time that you are challenged on your behaviour

It’s exhibitionism all the way down.

I think others will be submitting that misogyny should be treated as a hate crime to the APPG too.

Interesting chat featuring Tara Hewitt about incitement to hatred laws. Everything seems to be incitement to hatred for them though...

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I have also started saying no. It goes down way better than I ever could have anticipated. I feel a fool for not trying out this assertiveness lark years ago. But then I work with decent people. And I'm older so people don't patronise me as much

AngryAttackKittens

Get one of the T-shirts from standing for women instead

I feel like we need an "I survived my encounter with a male Cluster B" club, possibly with tshirts.

It's always "transmisogyny" isn't it? Never "transmisandry". Despite some of those being referred to having nothing to do with "gyno" and some denying their "gyno".

Every grand pronouncement needs countering with "an individual heavily involved in advising institutions on measures that will erode the ability to safeguard vulnerable women and children has allegedly been found doing what they told an international news channel does not and would not happen".

I've lurked and occassionally commented (under a different username which weirdly went pooff a couple of weeks ago) for a long while now. I originally found this board looking for an explanation as to how I was conned by a narc who was very into trangressing boundaries by involving unwitting participants. Thank you to all the patient, knowledgable and funny contributors.

I’ve started saying no more in life and in work, with no justifying and apologising. People’s reactions to it have varied massively. It’s been enlightening.

It is worth reiterating that there questions were being asked of Jess Bradley / Action for TRans Health prior to the current allegation which is being investigated by the NUS.

See Rose of Dawn's discussion,
'Radical far-left activists often co-opt unrelated movements to enforce their ideology on others. Here, I take a look at this phenomenon taking place in the trans community.'

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=ue3iAnSSIP4

Also, if you want to get the measure of a man, say no to him about something relatively minor and watch and listen carefully to what he does next.

This is the advice I give to all the girls in my sons' social circles about potential boyfriends. Say no (when it is safe) and see how they react. Then you'll know whether they're worth going out with or not.

Yes. Which is why a woman's no is both so powerful and so unacceptable. So remember to say no as often as you can and without justifying it. Just say no. It's a complete sentence.

Absolutely. Also, if you want to get the measure of a man, say no to him about something relatively minor and watch and listen carefully to what he does next.

Very well said LangCleg

I don't know, it's not like i didn't know it wasn't about power, but wow, some people are probably really getting off on everyone doing their bidding aren't they?

Yes. Which is why a woman's no is both so powerful and so unacceptable. So remember to say no as often as you can and without justifying it. Just say no. It's a complete sentence.

As an aside, I find Owen Jones fascinating. I don’t think I have ever come across anyone who I simultaneously agree with and disagree with so profoundly depending on what he is talking about.

"In 2018, a crack one out unit was sent to prison by a military court for a wank they didn't commit. This transwoman promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the South Manchester underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as a soldier of Tumblr. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire Carter-Ruck."

Good question, Jello. And one that Penny Mordaunt will have to have an answer for at some point.

To anyone using the “don’t tar all transwomen with the same brush argument” I would ask: what facilities should Jess use now?

If the women’s- you are complicit in facilitating the very actions Jess has been suspended for- women do not consent to be flashed at or wanked beside in the toilets.

If not the women’s- how can we ensure transwomen like Jess are kept segregated?

And Cursed E knows, because he has been told often enough in the past, that females have no way of knowing which males intend harm to them so we have to be cautious of all males until we are able to learn otherwise.

That sound you hear in the background is most definitely the sound of many hands fapping.

don't know, it's not like i didn't know it wasn't about power, but wow, some people are probably really getting off on everyone doing their bidding aren't they?

Yes.

And this misgendering bullshit is the same thing isn't it? Pushing people to participate in their delusions

Wow, a little penny has dropped with me regarding this. Just thinking about the language around 'misgendering'. How certain handmaidens women fall over themselves to ensure that they are using the 'correct pronouns' and instruct others to ensure they do the same.

I don't know, it's not like i didn't know it wasn't about power, but wow, some people are probably really getting off on everyone doing their bidding aren't they?

*Floisme

Interesting that allies are now feeling emboldened enough to speak. It's taken them long enough. I wonder if we'll hear from Owen Jones soon?*

Please Goddess no! One wanker involved in this story is enough!