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Jane Garvey interviews a parent of a transgender child & Aimee Challener on Woman's Hour.

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R0wantrees · 30/07/2018 10:37

On now

"What is it like to parent a child experiencing gender dysphoria? How does that child experience wanting to be recognised as a different gender from a young age? Deni Parkes, mother of 24 year old, Kye, a trans man, and Aimee Challenor, a 20 year old trans woman speak to Jane."
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bcddpp

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nauticant · 30/07/2018 11:17

I caught a bit of Just a Girl. I loathe that drama with it's sparkly message that if a boy says they're a girl then they're a girl and everyone must comply. The only possible problem that can arise is transphobic attitudes from bigots, without that everything would be super wonderful.

So, today's episode. Amy (the transgirl) is getting involved with a boy who is in the dark about Amy being trans. Amy is in no hurry to set him straight (ha!). This makes my flesh crawl.

I recall hearing an episode of a previous series where a male relative was going on about being violent to people who wouldn't accept that the boy was not a girl. I can't think of any other drama on Radio 4 where possible violence would be presented so sympathetically.

Is my recollection correct that in order to make this propaganda convincing, the actor who plays the boy who claims to be a girl is actually a girl?

AnchorMum · 30/07/2018 11:09

I was impressed by Deni, Kye's mother. Kye's story sounds a very moving one, and Deni seems to be someone who has looked at things in the round and done what she felt was best for her child given the circumstances.

I really struggle with Aimee's presentation: describing it repeatedly as "coming out", "coming out of the closet", as though it is another variant of LGB sexual preference.

I also found Aimee's report of her parents' reaction really odd: an immediate response of 'if you want to transition we'll support you.'

This was at aged 16. Was there really no discussion of all the huge consequences of transitioning? The lifelong drugs, the sterility, the potential surgery?

Aimee said: I was lucky because my parents were supportive and loving, as were my siblings.

So, any parent/family member that do not immediately accept/acquiesce are unloving and unsupportive?

I know nothing about Aimee's circumstances- perhaps her parents saw this coming and weren't surprised. But I'm appalled that Jane Garvey's interview did not even mention that many parents do have concerns - which is a totally legitimate and rational thing to have.

And it should have been made clear that being trans and transitioning is not the same as coming out as gay.

I don't want to be critical of any trans person's individual testimony and experience, or that of their families - but this interview made it sound so simple, so straightforward, just a matter of all us being kind and loving and supportive to the person suffering these identity feelings.

As a parent struggling to understand my own young adult child's rapid onset gender dysphoria, I find this no- questions-asked narrative deeply worrying.

R0wantrees · 30/07/2018 10:56

Followed by interesting drama:

Episode 1
15 Minute Drama, Just a Girl Episode 1 of 5

In this fourth series of Just A Girl, trans teenager Amy has just finished her GCSEs and is waiting for her results. She's been taking hormone blockers since she was 11 and is now anxious to start on the next phase of transitioning.

She's always been certain of her gender identity - it's other people who are the problem. Over the course of a week away in Manchester, she falls in love, experiences her first kiss, meets the inspirational Kate O'Donnell, deals with challenging counter-views on trans-gender politics and learns that being trans is just part of her life - not all of it.

Episode 1: Teenagers Amy and Ryley are falling for each other. How will Amy tell him she's trans? And when should she tell him? Will he still like her? She's going to have to find out. Amy, now 16, and her grandad Ted arrive in Manchester. Ted has a funeral to attend and Amy needs some time out from her mum who wants her to wait before starting cross sex hormones. The last thing Amy needs is to meet a boy she really likes."

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bcg8bm

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