Why do they want to silence us?

From Glosswitch article previous page:

"The deliberate withdrawal of women from men has almost always been seen as a potentially dangerous or hostile act, a conspiracy, a subversion, a needless and grotesque thing.” Thus wrote Adrienne Rich in 1976’s Of Woman Born, her seminal exploration of the politics of motherhood. From the workers gossiping in the spinning circle to old wives passing down knowledge of contraception and abortion, women gathered in isolation have long been considered untrustworthy. What might they be saying? What could they be plotting? And how, above all, might they be controlled?

It’s a problem that’s never gone away, though the context has changed. Anxiety over women’s speech – fuelling violent backlash in the form of witch trials and scold’s bridles – arose at a time when, to quote Marina Warner, “women dominated the webs of information and power; the neighbourhood, the village, the well, the washing place, the shops, the stalls, the street were their arena of influence, not only the household”.continues

Quite a few of the rules apply:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/6kkeni/theerulesoffmisogyny/

They are trying to silence us because they hate us and need us at the same time. Like masters and slaves. Our chains are invisible now...

I think emotional abuse tactics- such as gaslighting and minimising - should be taught to all primary school aged children. Only then will we begin to regain our freedom.

than and emotional

Women sharing information frightens men.

^This.

Try and find any other UK or even international online open feminist forums... now look for MRA online forums (think boards, open comments sections on youtube videos, online communities, etc)... there are thousands of them and all comments posted go largely unchallenged as women have better things to do then "police" men like men "police" women... I've tried engaging in good faith many times before, but in 3,2,1... threats of rape and violence begin... weird because they present themselves as the rational, logical ones.. but they sure do get emotion and violent quickly... Really wish this section of Mumsnet had a similar slogan to the avoiceformen boards: a voice for women - no apologies.

Courage calls to courage.
I saw the same thing happen on tumblr. The misogynists thought they ruled the place but all it too was a few women to speak up and say no to men and the next thing you know there is consciousness raising happening right there in front of everybody.

I just joined twitter a few months ago because I am the sound bite queen in my family and they all told me that twitter was designed especially for me. It is teaching me to be brief, briefer?

Because we women should know our place. But we don't.

Honestly? Because we're having an impact

yup. combined with an intrinsic feeling that women expressing an opinion is wrong

and so much this:

I want an analysis of NI and Brexit, or the Malaysian airplane crash? I come here

There seem to be some men (and I have no idea what proportion of men it is) who think that women going about their lives without framing their experiences in terms of men in their lives means that men are being replaced. This is a scary thought for them, for some, especially those who feel insecure compared to other men.

I came here FROM Twitter. I found it toxic over there and someone told me that MN was the place for women who wanted to be able to discuss their own issues.

Many women have shyed away from Twitter as it is such a horribly aggressive environment. But here and the comments sections of newspaper articles are incredibly useful places for getting our points across to a wider cross section of society. We need to get more men talking out in defence of our valid concerns.

Oh and the numbers accessing MN via this board have gone up twelvefold since 2016

Honestly? Because we're having an impact. It is imperative to them that this space is removed, because it is public, it is populated by articulate and educated women who are persistent and determined - many of us with liberal leanings and skin in the game because of friends or family.

We irritate and possibly scare the shit out of them, so we get the full arsenal. Which is mostly tantrums and meaningless bullshit at the moment, but I've no doubt whatsoever they will employ whatever means necessary.

May 2018 NewStatesman Glosswitch article:
"The demonisation of Mumsnet is just the latest incarnation of witch-hunting
Naturally, it frightens people to think of what a group of mothers might actually demand."

www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2018/05/demonisation-mumsnet-just-latest-incarnation-witch-hunting

Oh, and Shon Faye’s ‘enjoy ur erasure’ comment gave me the chills.

This lurk would also like to add her thanks to all the brilliant women here.

I thought all this wasn't a big deal until I read about the assault on Maria MacLachlan, then some comment on a 'feminist' site about 'the transphobes over at Mumsnet'. Mumsnet, w-ha-a-a-t?

You give me hope.

Refusal to conform, and the constant sharing of really inconvenient information, perspectives, evidence and facts, which makes other people go … hang on a minute, that can't be a good idea. And we keep on doing this even after they told us not to .

Women talking together (and supporting each other in non conforming and anti patriarchal views) has been a crime since before the Romans. I think the figure is 13 million women burned in Europe and North America for being insufficiently obedient to the patriarchy, who were known at the time as witches. The site in my town where men burned such women is still there today.

In a conversation about what rights don't you have, theres never a straight answer because the one they are really after is the right to control women.

Exactly. Which is why FWR is such a threat. Women speaking outwith male supervision cannot be allowed.

Women talking and assembling without men has been a threat since time immemorial
The one thing they all seem to have in common is underestimating the women on MN. I want an analysis of NI and Brexit, or the Malaysian airplane crash? I come here
In a conversation about what rights don't you have, theres never a straight answer because the one they are really after is the right to control women.

All of the above. Bloody brilliant women on here.

Oh and the numbers accessing MN via this board have gone up twelvefold since 2016.

That’s a lot of lurkers reading, understanding...

Women talking and assembling without men has been a threat since time immemorial.

We have an assemblage of intelligent, witty, knowledgeable posters here with great critical thinking and a range of skills - law, sociology, science, medics, etc.

We are naturally committed to women’s right and child safety because of our demographic.

We have numbers - plenty of financial clout in terms of purchasing power within the family (70% of family spending?)

And we are right. And all we are doing is exposing an idea to light. If I was campaigning for something I’d be delighted if it got into the public sphere. If a group isn’t delighted, or cannot express their aims in a way that means the public can see and be happy with them, then we must accept the possibility that their aims are not whatcthe public actually wants.

Some online trolls get sadistic pleasure and who knows what else from crossing women's boundaries and causing distress - they get a rise from negative attention

Some TRAs think that womanhood is some sort of club that feminists are excluding them from, not registering that the state of being a woman is neither a costume nor an identity, but material reality.

Which sex you are is fixed at conception and it can not be changed. What they are never able to realize is that woman is not an empty category they can just invade and colonize. Acting as if it were displays the poisonous misogyny that underpins their assumptions.

Exactly.

Trans ideology demsnds that women.accept transwomen as women just like we are. When we assert our boundaries and point out that transwomen are male they interpret this as denying their very existence, whereas what we're saying is that, of course, transwomen exist but that they aren't women.

Nothing wrong with being trans. Feminists are only too pleased when people are gender non conforming. Wear what you like, change your name, get body modifications. But it doesn't make you a woman. And it doesn't give you the right to access woman only spaces. Because you're male.

Some TRAs think that womanhood is some sort of club that feminists are excluding them from, not registering that the state of being a woman is neither a costume nor an identity, but material reality.

Which sex you are is fixed at conception and it can not be changed. What they are never able to realize is that woman is not an empty category they can just invade and colonize. Acting as if it were displays the poisonous misogyny that underpins their assumptions.